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6 Reasons Why Your Prius Cruise Control Not Working

Having troubles with your Prius cruise control not working? It’s a frustrating issue that can impact long drives and road trips. Luckily, there are a few common reasons that could be the root cause of this problem.

One potential issue is a blown fuse that can stop your cruise control system from functioning. Another possibility is a failed control module, sensor, or switch causing the cruise control to malfunction.

What is Cruise Control in Prius?

Cruise control in your Prius is an advanced system designed to maintain a steady speed while driving. It’s a convenient feature that allows you to relax your foot off the accelerator pedal and still maintain a constant speed, making your journey more comfortable. Your Prius, being a hybrid vehicle, is equipped with an efficient cruise control system which, if functioning properly, can even help improve fuel economy.

Your Prius uses a combination of sensors and control modules to manage the cruise control system. These sensors detect your vehicle’s speed, road conditions, and the distance to other vehicles. If you have a newer Prius model, you might even have adaptive cruise control. This advanced feature not only maintains your set speed but also automatically adjusts the speed based on the distance to the car in front, making your drive even safer and more comfortable.

When you activate cruise control in your Prius, the system communicates with the hybrid powertrain, utilizing both the electric motor and gasoline engine to maintain the desired speed. This intelligent management of power resources results in better fuel efficiency and a smoother driving experience.

Common Causes of Prius Cruise Control Not Working

Electrical issues.

One of the possible reasons for your Prius cruise control not working could be electrical issues such as blown fuses. All electrical systems in the vehicle are controlled by fuses. Your cruise control system is attached to a fuse that can blow if there is a short circuit or fault. Without a good fuse, the cruise control system can’t work at all. Thankfully, it’s not difficult to find and replace a blown fuse.

Speed Sensor and Speedometer Problems

Another common problem you may encounter is issues with the speed sensor and speedometer. If your Prius’ speed sensor is faulty, it can cause inaccurate speed readings, leading to cruise control failure. You will need to have the speed sensor inspected and possibly replaced to fix this issue.

Steering Wheel and Clock Spring Issues

The clock spring is a crucial component in your Prius’ steering wheel assembly, responsible for maintaining the electrical connection with various controls, including the cruise control. If the clock spring is damaged or faulty, it may result in the cruise control system not functioning. You may need a professional mechanic to inspect and replace the clock spring if necessary.

Brake Light Switch and Wiring Harness

A faulty brake light switch or wiring harness can also cause cruise control problems in your Prius. If the brake light switch is not working correctly, the cruise control system may not disengage when you apply the brakes. In this case, it’s essential to check the brake light switch circuit and wiring harness for possible faults and replace any damaged components.

Cruise Control Lever and Switches

Issues with the cruise control lever and switches can also lead to non-functioning cruise control. The system relies on input from these components to maintain the set speed. If the lever or switches are faulty, it can prevent the cruise control system from engaging. A professional mechanic should inspect the lever and switches for any signs of damage or wear and replace them as needed.

Accelerator Pedal and Connectors

Lastly, problems with the accelerator pedal and connectors can affect your Prius cruise control system. If the accelerator pedal is not functioning correctly or its connectors are loose, the cruise control may not engage or maintain the desired speed. You can check the accelerator pedal for any signs of wear or damage and ensure the connectors are securely attached.

By addressing these common issues, you can ensure that your Prius’ cruise control system remains functional and safe to use while driving. Remember to consult a professional mechanic for any necessary repairs or replacements.

Year Specific Concerns

In this section, we will discuss the specific concerns that you may encounter with your 2004 Prius and 2007 Toyota Prius cruise control systems. By understanding these issues, you can be better prepared to address any problems that you might experience with your vehicle.

2004 Prius Cruise Control Problems

For the 2004 Prius, some owners have reported issues with their cruise control not activating. These problems can be caused by a variety of factors. One common cause is a faulty brake light switch, as the cruise control system relies on the brake light switch to disengage when the brakes are applied. If the switch is not functioning properly, the cruise control may not activate at all. It’s also possible that the clock spring cable may be the culprit, leading to intermittent functionality.

Another possible issue with the 2004 Prius cruise control is a problem with the control module, sensor, or throttle actuation. In some cases, the cruise control might not work due to these components not functioning correctly.

2007 Toyota Prius Cruise Control Issues

When it comes to the 2007 Toyota Prius, the cruise control can also experience similar issues. Like the 2004 model, problems with the brake light switch, cruise control switch circuit, or throttle actuation can result in the cruise control not working properly.

However, the 2007 Prius may also encounter issues with the stop light switch circuit , which wouldn’t necessarily cause a problem with the brake lights. This can make diagnosing the issue a bit more challenging, as you may not notice any other symptoms related to the brake light system .

Being aware of these specific concerns for your 2004 Prius and 2007 Toyota Prius will help you better identify and address any cruise control issues that you encounter. Remember to consult with a professional mechanic if you’re unsure how to resolve the problem, as they will have the expertise necessary to ensure your vehicle’s safety and performance.

Repair Costs and Considerations

Brake light and cable replacement costs.

When your Prius cruise control stops working, sometimes the problem can be traced back to a faulty brake light or damaged cable. In such cases, you need to consider the cost of replacing these components.

Replacing the brake light in your Toyota Prius typically costs between $50 and $100, including the parts and labor. However, the price may vary based on your location and the complexity of the replacement process.

As for the cable, fixing or replacing it usually runs between $100 and $250, depending on the extent of the damage and the labor fees in your area. Keep in mind that these estimates are just guidelines and might change based on specific circumstances.

Speed Sensor and Stem Repairs

Another potential issue that could cause your Prius cruise control to malfunction is a faulty speed sensor or problems with the stem. Let’s take a closer look at the costs associated with these repairs.

The speed sensor is an essential component of your vehicle’s cruise control system. If it fails, the system might not function correctly. Replacing a speed sensor in your Prius generally costs anywhere from $150 to $250, which includes parts and labor. Again, these prices may vary depending on factors such as your location or the complexity of the repair.

Lastly, repairing or replacing the stem, which is a part of the cruise control switch, can also impact the overall repair cost. This procedure typically ranges between $100 and $200. Like with the other repair costs mentioned, your specific expenses might differ based on location or the intricacies involved in the repair process.

To summarize, when addressing issues with your Prius cruise control system, you need to consider several factors, including the costs of replacing brake lights, cables, speed sensors, or stems. Though these figures provided are just estimated ranges, they can help inform your decision when seeking professional repairs.

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Anyone ever experience "Cruise Control Not Available" message on the command center screen? ...it was raining (sprinkle) and the windshield wipers were on high.  

I haven't heard of that but maybe it's an intentional safety feature. I was taught never to use cruise control in the rain. The constant speed makes it more likely that the vehicle will hydroplane.  

Yes, it could be a safety feature. Is it in the manual somewhere? It was a sprinkle. (Road surface was wet...not a downpour...hydroplaning not likely.) Wipers were on high to clear spray from a passing truck.  

Hmm the only time I have encountered this message was with dynamic radar cruise on and trying to set a speed below or at 35. If I just use normal cruise I can set it at any speed.  

Found in regards to a Prius, but I'm sure it's a similar situation. I dunno if Highlanders come with auto wipers though? Mine's XLE and doesn't: "If you’ve got a Prius with radar cruise control then you may find under certain conditions that it will disengage and flash up an error saying “cruise control not available”. You could be forgiven for thinking that there may be a computer fault with the vehicle but there is another situation that causes this to occur. The radar cruise control is tied in with the automatic windscreen wipers and when the windscreen sensors detect enough rain to necessitate the wipers to operate at their maximum speed this automatically disengages the radar cruise control. This is a safety feature as too much rain can impede the ability of the radar to reliably and accurately detect vehicles in front of you. However, at your own peril, you can disengage the automatic wipers and change the setting to something other than the HI setting which will allow the use of the radar cruise control once again irrespective of the actual rain conditions."  

poopypants said: The radar cruise control is tied in with the automatic windscreen wipers and when the windscreen sensors detect enough rain to necessitate the wipers to operate at their maximum speed this automatically disengages the radar cruise control. This is a safety feature as too much rain can impede the ability of the radar to reliably and accurately detect vehicles in front of you. Click to expand...

And straight forward enough for the OP to test whether wipers are the the direct cause and report back... i.e. wipers on high; cruise available? Wipers off? Wipers on low or medium? Intermittent?  

I have a limited and yes turning the wipers on high will give that message and turn off cruise. You may try to put the HL in normal cruise if you want to use it with wipers on high and see if that works. m  

I will have to test this when I have my wipers on high next time.  

I believe it's a security "feature". My interpretation is you shouldn't be using CC during heavy rain which limits the visibility. When engaged radar CC, some drivers may not focus on the road as much as when not engaged which can be very dangerous in heavy rain situations. I also had another problem a week ago. I was using radar CC and it was snowing. At some point there must have been enough accumulation on the sensors that it gave a warning asking to clean up the sensors and disengaged the CC.  

Also, if your wipers are on max, it must mean its really pouring. I wonder if the heavy downpour limits the radar's range/effectiveness...  

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I've been using my cruise control on my 06 regularly on highways and long stretches of local roads. There's never been a problem with it for the past 4 weeks since I've owned the car. It activated, maintained my speed, and I was able to adjust my speed using the control stalk. Yesterday, I had to drive to a friend's dinner party. After driving on local roads and getting onto the highway, I decided to use the cruise control. I turn the system on using the button on the end of the stalk. The indicator on the dash reported the cruise control was activated. I then proceeded to set the speed by pulling the stalk down. I was travelling at 65mph and took my foot off the gas. Gradually my speed started dropping as if I hadn't turned on the cruise control (coasting to a stop). I tried setting the cruise control repeatedly but each time it would not maintain my speed. I was planning on bringing the car in for service today but on my drive home last night, the cruise control started working again! Has anyone had this problem before?  

yes, that happens to me occasionally as well. once, I turned the cruise off and then back on, and then it worked fine. I kind of wonder if I'm not holding the lever down long enough sometimes, when trying to set it. rpm  

Do you have Coastal's EV mod? If so, it is possible it is malfunctioning and interfering with CC. CC is controlled by one wire, by sending different resistances to ground from the stalk, and the mod taps into this control line. Although the mod is supposed to be passive, something could have gone wrong so that the expected engage voltage is not seen on the line. Or, the stalk could have gone bad. A competent dealer can check this, first with the scan tool to see what the HV ECU sees, then taking a voltage/ohm reading to the CC input on the HV ECU. Obviously the line itself is unbroken, otherwise you would not be able to turn the CC on in the first place.  

no mods for me. and the problem is so infrequent that, in my case, I think it's user error. rob  

rpm said: no mods for me. and the problem is so infrequent that, in my case, I think it's user error. Click to expand...

Intermittent switch contacts I have not opened up the CC stalk to see what kind of switch is in there, but if it has open contacts, it could be a build up of dust causing an intermittent connection. On older vehicles, this was a common problem with radios and other electrical parts. With everything turned off, try clicking the switch on and off 10-15 times, then see if the problem has gone away. This will often clean off the contacts for awhile. Even the old Bell telephones had intermittent switches. We used to take the handset and beat the heck out of the buttons with it, whenever they acted up. (Old technology fix - get a bigger hammer!)  

DanMan32 said: CC may not work in the following conditions: 1. You didn't pull (push) the stalk down far enough 2. CC hasn't been activated yet (you indicated it was showing as on (ready, available, etc) 3. You weren't going fast enough. CC works only above 24 MPH. You indicated you were going 65 though. 4. You ride your brakes, or at least the system thinks you are pressing your brakes. Usually the brake lights in the back will go on, but not always, as there is 2 switches on the pedal for failsafe. Some who had the brake recall had to have this readjusted after the recall. 5. In B mode. CC doesn't work in B. Click to expand...

I'm still getting used to the Toyota cruise control. It lack the "accelerate" feature i'm used to on other vehicles. In addition, the "resume" feature seems like it will only "resume" if i'm within 5-6 mph of the previously set speed. Weird, and there is a high liklihood that it is user error on my part. good luck with your control, ....... 8) 8)  

It does both. It's just not instantaneous. Be more patient. You can't resume CC if you dropped below 24 MPH. If you did drop below 24 MPH, CC intentionally forgets its setting and cannot resume. I have indeed resumed to higher speeds such as 55 from as low as 40. However, the acceleration rate was not to my liking so I would usually help it along. I usually do accelerate the CC. I can often drive the car and never touch the gas if traffic is light enough. If I see I am starting to creep near a car, I cancel CC or hid decel until I match the speed of the car I am following, or perhaps a little slower. If there's too much of a gap, or traffic has sped up, I pull the stalk up to accelerate, or if I can judge the speed difference, I'll tap up the accel stalk once for each MPH increase I desire. Now if my deceleration rate is not sufficient, then I am forced to press on the brakes. But whatever speed shifts I could accomplish with the accelerator, I can also do with the CC stalk. Also, I believe CC's acceleration rate is the most efficient, though I haven't proven this empirically. It seems to accelerate maintaining about 20 MPG consumption during the acceleration. Although in ideal physics it doesn't matter how fast you accelerate, only the target speed matters, I believe the power plant has rates that are more efficient than others. That's why it's a hybrid.  

Cruise Control in "B" - 2002 Prius We have a 2002 Prius, and the cruise control works in "B". Doesn't it work on the newer models?  

I didn't think it did. Maybe I'm getting confused with EV mode. I'll check this evening.  

cruisin' Classic Prius can do cruise control in 'B mode' in fact it is a spooky way to hold a constant speed downhill. The new model Prius has lost this capability. Pound sand, y'all. On the other hand there is no clean way to enable EV mode in classic. One can power down the fuel injectors and put up with a screenful of irritating messages, but that's about it. DAS  

Phoenix said: We have a 2002 Prius, and the cruise control works in "B". Doesn't it work on the newer models? Click to expand...

mrv said: Phoenix said: We have a 2002 Prius, and the cruise control works in "B". Doesn't it work on the newer models? Click to expand...

Probably not the OP's problem, but another thing to keep in mind: If doing a cruise control retrofit (Classic Prius, or NHW11 (such as the base models in Europe/UK where cruise isn't standard)), if you see a blinking cruise control light the installation wasn't properly completed. Usually it is the brake stop switch that needs adjustement. The 2004 (and I think the 2005) Prius had the SSC 40L (if my memory serves correctly for the letter designation!), which replaced the brake stop switch with a newer design one. Some people reported problems where their dealer did not correctly tighten the new brake stop switch in correctly. Most commonly, the problem was that it wasn't sensitive enough, so you had to mash on the brake pedal for it to register/turn on the brake signal lights. My husband's 2004 was one of the few to have it set too sensitively - just the weight of the brake pedal over time would cause the brake lights to come on (which caused his 12v battery to die by the time he left work one evening - brake lights on all day), or going over a bump in the road, or... He couldn't use cruise control with the sensitive brake stop switch, as the brake was always being pressed (cancelling cruise control) even when he wasn't touching the brake pedal. Do remember that the cruise control set speed function does not work if going less than 24mph. The resume function does not remember the old speed if you drop below 24mph or if you turn off/on the car. The cruise control may "give up" holding the set speed if it detects that it cannot hold you to that speed, such as going down a steep/long hill, or a high set cruising speed when going up a steep/long hill.  

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By JoelNevada February 12 in Prius Club

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Yesterday we took a drive.  About three hours into the drive we stopped and got something to eat.  After we got back into the car we tried to enable cruise control we got the "!" indicator AND the text message "Cruise Control Not Available".  In looking at the online manual it indicates "The dynamic radar cruise control with full-speed range system cannot be used temporarily.  Use the system when it becomes available again."  I have owned the car for about three years so I know how to enable cruise control and characteristics.  

We have tried shutting off the car and then powering and taking it for a ride, but the same issue.  We have also tried letting it sit in the garage overnight to get a full charge and then trying it again.  Same issue.  We have hooked up our OBDC Blue Driver and tried to see about getting error codes but no errors were displayed.  All items were checked, except "Dynamic Radar" and "Air Bags".  All other systems reported no errors.  All other features appeared to be operating just fine.  Only thing that would make sense to me would be something wrong with the "Dynamic Radar".  I don't think it can be dirt or bugs on the sensor (doesn't make sense), but taking it in for full car wash in morning just in case.   Any suggestions?

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I would say that your last comment is the most likely cause

Alternatively if anything has caused damage (inside or outside) to the windshield area where the ADAS sensors are located then this also could be the cause along with damage to the grille area if there is a radar or camera located behind the badge area

This morning I verified No windshield damage and no apparent damage on the grill area below the Toyota emblem.  Took car to car wash (manual wand type and also a auto car wash) no help.  Just in case, checked all fuses to ensure none where blown.  Local Toyota Dealer indicated they can troubleshoot issue ($200) and depending on results this could be covered by warranty.  Unless someone can give different possible testing, taking it to dealer next week.

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Issue has been determined kind of.  Took vehicle to dealer and after they spent several hours troubleshooting.  Dealer indicated that there were no errors when using the OBD tools.  They took the vehicle for a spin and verified the issue.  When the primary tech could not determine issue a senior tech took it for a test drive and duplicated the issue.  Finally, after I was waiting for five hours the dealership indicated they found the problem.  They indicated they disconnect and charged the battery.  After that everything worked great.  They recommended replacing the battery, but it was too close to closing.  I took the vehicle home and its been several weeks now and everything still works fine without doing anything.  SO, I am thinking it was the dealership fixed the issue by cleaning the primary battery contacts.  So, this experince cost me about $200, but the dealer ended up doing a great job.  Shout out to Carson City Toyota in that they did a great job.

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If you’ve got a Prius with radar cruise control then you may find under certain conditions that it will disengage and flash up an error saying “cruise control not available”. You could be forgiven for thinking that there may be a computer fault with the vehicle but there is another situation that causes this to occur.

The radar cruise control is tied in with the automatic windscreen wipers and when the windscreen sensors detect enough rain to necessitate the wipers to operate at their maximum speed this automatically disengages the radar cruise control. This is a safety feature as too much rain can impede the ability of the radar to reliably and accurately detect vehicles in front of you.

However, at your own peril, you can disengage the automatic wipers and change the setting to something other than the HI setting which will allow the use of the radar cruise control once again irrespective of the actual rain conditions. Probably not the best thing to do though.

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Sure would appreciate someone who has taken "Best of Moscow by high speed train" from St. Petersburg could please share their impressions of this shore excursion. From the description this sounds like a very long day.

Wondering how the 4 hour train trip was in terms of accommodations, etc. Also what time did you leave the ship and what time at night did you return? Were both legs of the trip on the high speed rail (I read that slower trains also travel the same tracks)?

My wife and I are considering this excursion. We thought that if we are making all the effort to go to Russia then how could we pass up going to Moscow, walking in Red Square, seeing St. Basil, etc.

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If you are considering this on the 2015 June Baltic cruise on Voyager; my suggestion is don't. There is so much to do in St. Petersburg and although a train is one of my favorite ways to travel the time would be far better spent in St. P.

Thanks for the advice. Yes, this would be on the Voyager during the 2015 season but not yet sure exactly which cruise.

We did the Moscow excursion "on a different luxury line", but from your brief description it sounds very much like the same trip, so I will operate on that assumption. It is a VERY long day! We left the ship at 5:30 AM and returned at 12:30 AM. The highspeed train trip is comfortable, and while they call it "Business Class" it does not compare well to the equivalent class on say Rail Europe. When we did it in 2011, we did have highspeed both ways, and the trip back seemed much longer as the adrenaline and excitement had worn off!:D

Moscow itself is not that terribly different from any other big city in the world, but this Cold War kid never thought he would ever stand in Red Square, never mind walk the grounds of The Kremlin, or tour The Kremlin Palace, or see (but not visit) Lenin's Tomb, or visit The Armoury. But he did, and he loved every minute of it! Yes, it is a long day, and you barely scratch a scratch on the surface, but it is worth it. There is a tremendous amount to see in St. Petersburg, but every Baltic cruise goes to St. Petersburg, so you can go back if you choose to. Not every cruiseline offers you the chance to see Moscow.

I have not personally done this tour, but our last time in St Petersburg, the private guide that we hired for a day was leading the regent tour to Moscow on the high speed train the next day. He said it was way better than the previous alternative, which was flying to Moscow and back. He said that you actually got to Moscow faster because you didn't have to deal with airline checkin etc. it did seem like a very long day to me, and there is so much to see and do in st. Petersburg that I didn't consider doing it.

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We toured to Moscow from St. Petersburg via the hi-speed SAPSAN train last September, from a Baltic cruise on the Oceania Marina. You need to have a two-night, three day port call in St. Petersburg to take this tour because the tour typically leaves the ship around 5:00 - 5:30 AM and doesn't return until after midnight the next day. We didn't take the ship's tour; we made private arrangements with TravelAllRussia for three days of touring, the first and third days in St. Petersburg and the second day the tour to Moscow by train. Our cost for the private tour for three days was about the same as what the ship charged for the excursion to Moscow alone. There are a number of private tour agencies that operate in St. Petersburg and offer the Moscow train tours; we would strongly recommend them over the ship's tours.

All three days had private guides with car and driver. The second day, the driver picked us up at the ship and took us to the train, but we were alone on the train, and met in Moscow by the guide on the station platform. After our tour and dinner, we were brought back to the train and after the return train trip met by the driver and taken back to the ship. Because you are alone on the train you must have your own Russian visas.

If this is your first visit to St. Petersburg, I would agree there is much more to see there. We found Moscow somewhat a disappointment, particularly Red Square. The Kremlin and the cathedral in Red Square were also worth seeing. But the best thing we saw was the Moscow subway! I worked for the Washington Metro system back in the 1980s as it grew from 40 to 80 miles and although I was in the computer area, I learned a lot about the challenges of running a subway system. We used the Moscow system to get across the city from where we had dinner to the train station, and I was amazed at the cleanliness', speed of operation, the short headways maintained, and the courtesy of everyone involved. A very impressive experience!

We had been to St. Petersburg before, and so had the time to take a day and go to Moscow. Also, I really like trains, and the SAPSAN is a German train set running on Russian rails. Seats are like first class domestic air, spacious but not too plush or comfortable, but with enough room. Not too much recline, and almost 8 hours on the train in two shots is a lot for an old man. They come through and sell drinks, candy, etc. but the sellers don't speak English and no one around us helped, so we had just poor coffee once coming, and brought stuff with us for the trip back. Not too much to see from the train either, particularly on the return when it is night the whole way.

If you decide to go, take a private tour and avoid the overly expensive ship's tour. I'm glad we did it, but wouldn't bother to repeat the tour; we've seen Moscow.

Thanks so much to all of you for the thorough and thought insight. Yhe information you have provided is most helpful.

countflorida: Your detailed post is very helpful. We are not quite ready for a Baltic cruise but should do so within a year. Time enough to do our pre travel research, bookings and visa gathering.:) Thank you!

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Sure would appreciate someone who has taken "Best of Moscow by high speed train" from St. Petersburg could please share their impressions of this shore excursion. From the description this sounds like a very long day.   Wondering how the 4 hour train trip was in terms of accommodations, etc. Also what time did you leave the ship and what time at night did you return? Were both legs of the trip on the high speed rail (I read that slower trains also travel the same tracks)?   My wife and I are considering this excursion. We thought that if we are making all the effort to go to Russia then how could we pass up going to Moscow, walking in Red Square, seeing St. Basil, etc.

I did this on Seabourn. IMO DONT. Take Aeroflop (er Aeroflot). The train has non folding seats where you are literally knee to knee with your fellow passenger (facing each other). Further they don't believe in air conditioning. It's also the worlds slowed bullet train. I think I would have found more enjoyment wandering around the St. Petersburg and Moscow airports.

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This is a little off topic,, however we had planned a river cruise in Russia but decided we would rather stay on land and have booked about two weeks with Travel-All-Russia using the private guide and driver. I'm curious as to how you found them as a tour company.

The guides they provided were fine. We had a different guide each of the days in St. Petersburg, but both were flexible, pleasant, knowledgeable and spoke English very well, as did the guide in Moscow, incidentally. She was a bit aloof, distant, not too friendly, but otherwise fine. In fact, she was the one who suggested taking the Metro, which unexpectedly became one of the highlights of the Moscow excursion. If I have a complaint with AllTravelRussia, it is with their plan and its execution (more later).

I had requested emphasis on World War II (in Russia, the Great Patriotic War) sites and info. In scheduling us, they weren't careful about dates and a couple of the sites we wanted to see were scheduled on the third day, after we'd been to Moscow. But both sites were closed that day of the week, and that info was readily available, right on web sites describing them. Also, the included meals (lunches in St. Pete, dinner in Moscow) were not what we asked for: light meals with some choices, so we could avoid things we didn't like and choose things we did like. My request was ignored; we were given full Russian meals with a fixed menu, no choice. On the first day, a fish dish was the entre, but I am allergic to fish. Fortunately, I had the e-mail I'd sent with me and showed it to the guide, and she was able to change my entre to chicken, which was very good actually. But we didn't want a 3-4 course lunches or dinner (in Moscow). We had the guide drop the lunch the third day, although we never got any credit or refund. But, particularly in contrast to the ship's tours, the prices were so reasonable we didn't worry too much about it.

The people who were on the ship's tour to Moscow saw us boarding the same train for which they were forced to queue up and wait on the way back, and asked us what we had done. I was candid and open so they were not happy when I explained what we had arranged and particularly what it had cost. Also, when we returned to the ship, we found they had laid on a late supper for those who had gone to Moscow, so up we went and had something. Well, it turns out the late supper was supposed to be just for those on the ship's tour, but we and others on 'independent' tours, there were a dozen or more of us, crashed the party, actually got there first, and they didn't realize it until the larger group arrived and there weren't enough tables/places set. By that time, the 'independents' had all gotten served and were eating; what could they do?

A couple from the larger group sat down with us and asked us about our tour, and they were the ones I told about our arrangement and its cost. They turned to others who’d been with them and announced the details, loudly enough so the whole room heard, which started a lot of bitching and complaining. I gathered they weren't very happy with the ship's tour to begin with, and this was the straw that broke the camel's back. We finished up and beat it out of there, but overheard later that one of the excursion staff came to check on something and ran into a real mess. I caught a cold on the trip, which forced me to bed the second day following in Tallinn, so by the time we reappeared we heard about the contretemps' but apparently no one recalled who started it, thankfully.

Because of what happened to us, I would probably not use AllTravelRussia if I were to go again, or if I did, I would be sure to get confirmation of every detail of the tour. They do have good reviews generally, and we were certainly helped by their visa department and liked the guides and drivers. Their weakness, I say now with full 20:20 hindsight, is that once the sales person who plans the tour, sells it to you and collects your money, he (or she) transfers the plan to their Russia office for implementation; there is no follow-up to make sure it gets done right. And that is where our problems arose; we paid for a custom tour but got a standard package with a few destinations switched, and no one checked them out, even to see when they were open the day we were scheduled to go. If you check every detail that’s important to you, it should be OK, but that’s a hell of a way to have to do business, in my opinion.

Thank you for the 20/20 hindsight observation on your Russian tour operator, and better priced than the ship's excursion cost.

Thanks very much for the feedback.

We had the same experience as you so far as price. We originally booked a Viking Cruise but, hearing some things about the river cruises that made us unhappy, looked into other options. T-A-R cost the same or less than a cruise and had us in hotels for 11 days. We opted for the private tour. They have three tour levels, based on hotels. We originally opted for the four star as it did not cost much more than the three star hotels. Finally we decided to throw it all in and upgraded to five star. In Moscow we will be at the newly opened Kempinsky which is two blocks from Red Square. In St. Petersburg it is the Grand Hotel Europe, one of the most vaunted luxury hotels in Russia. Location is important for us as the tours use up only part of the day so being in the center of everything for our independent touring is important. As with many other cities, the less you pay, the farther out of the center of town you are.

We have been working with our salesman in D.C. and he seems to get back to us with the changes we want. He recently returned from Russia so is up on everything. When I asked they said they paid the full TA commission if I wanted so I got my usual TA on board so he is watching our back and giving us that extra level of comfort. He also set up our air, which I know pays him little or nothing, and got us business class for much less than T-A-R wanted for economy, though it took working for a while with a consolidator. He's happy to get his 10 percent on this trip without having booked it. He also took care of the trip insurance. We've been doing a lot of research on the CC sister site Trip Advisor and will write a report there. We will, I guess, become a source of info for CC members after having spent 5 days in Moscow and 6 in SP.

• 4 months later...

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Anybody considering a day trip to Moscow from St. Petersburg on the Sapsan may want to look at our travelogue filled with pictures.

http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=1927687

Very informative. Thanks dor sharing. Jeff

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Discussion in ' Gen 2 Prius Care, Maintenance and Troubleshooting ' started by Friendlyx , Sep 14, 2017 .

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Hey everyone, i have a Toyota Prius 2006, and i was driving about a 30 mile drive, and i tried to turn on the cruise control, however it wouldn't turn on, I kept pressing and the light never came on. I thought maybe it's the light that was just not working and tried to activate it and it wouldn't either. About half way through the trip, i thought i'll try it again and i did and it turned on and was working fine. Is there a reason why this happens? Thank you. (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});  

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Has your car ever been in an accident? The spiral cable that runs in the steering wheel may be faulty  

JC91006 said: ↑ Has your car ever been in an accident? The spiral cable that runs in the steering wheel may be faulty Click to expand...

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You need to rule out clock spring cable and brake light switch. Brake light switch. Depress the brake pedal, the brake lights come on? Release the brake pedal, the brake lights go off? If yes to these two questions, your brake light switch is not the cause of the cruise control not working. Clock Spring Cable. Do the radio and AC steering wheel buttons work at all positions? A simple test is to park the car with the wheels pointing forward, and the steering wheel dead centered. Place a piece of tape at the very top of the steering wheel (this is your 12 o'clock position). Test all the steering wheel buttons (radio, AC, etc), at this 12 o'clock position. Do all the steering wheel button functions work? Move the steering wheel to 1 o'clock, and perform the steering wheel button test again. Go to 2 o'clock and test the buttons. Keep doing this at the other "hour" positions (3, 4, 5, 6), then go to 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6. A broken clock spring cable will reveal itself by intermittent operability of some or all the steering wheel buttons, at certain hour positions. This post has some good pictures of the clock spring cable and why a broken clock spring causes problems. 2006 Prius clock spring (spiral cable) repair | PriusChat If brake light switch and clock spring cable are working, it will be something else. But these two items are the most common culprits.  

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One way to get these symptoms is to shift to B. Unless you are braking, it is hard to notice you have. While in B you can't use Cruise.  

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Jimbo i just want to way say that  

exstudent said: ↑ You need to rule out clock spring cable and brake light switch. Brake light switch. Depress the brake pedal, the brake lights come on? Release the brake pedal, the brake lights go off? If yes to these two questions, your brake light switch is not the cause of the cruise control not working. Clock Spring Cable. Do the radio and AC steering wheel buttons work at all positions? A simple test is to park the car with the wheels pointing forward, and the steering wheel dead centered. Place a piece of tape at the very top of the steering wheel (this is your 12 o'clock position). Test all the steering wheel buttons (radio, AC, etc), at this 12 o'clock position. Do all the steering wheel button functions work? Move the steering wheel to 1 o'clock, and perform the steering wheel button test again. Go to 2 o'clock and test the buttons. Keep doing this at the other "hour" positions (3, 4, 5, 6), then go to 11, 10, 9, 8, 7, 6. A broken clock spring cable will reveal itself by intermittent operability of some or all the steering wheel buttons, at certain hour positions. This post has some good pictures of the clock spring cable and why a broken clock spring causes problems. 2006 Prius clock spring (spiral cable) repair | PriusChat If brake light switch and clock spring cable are working, it will be something else. But these two items are the most common culprits. Click to expand...

Friendlyx said: ↑ Hi there, so my cruise control will only turn on if i turn it towards the left pass halfway. Is there anything i could do to fix this? Click to expand...

exstudent said: ↑ 1) Drive in a continuous left handed circle, so the broken connection(s) in the clockspring are reestablished and maintained; impossible. 2) Attempt a repair, like the referenced thread in post #4 above; however, this is very short term. 3) Replace the defective clockspring with a Genuine OEM Toyota part; the best long term solution. Since you seem to lack the skills to do this repair, price shop independent shops and dealers on their labor rates. Ask for discounts (AAA, military, Costco membership program, etc). Remember these old proverbs: You get what you pay for. Penny wise, pound foolish. FAKE clocksprings are available on crapbay (ebay) for $8-$30. toyota prius clockspring | eBay Genuine OEM Toyota part costs $220.88 from Camelback Toyota; your original clockspring lasted 11, possibly 12 years (depending on your vehicle production date). 2007 Toyota Prius Parts - Camelback Toyota Parts - Genuine OEM Parts - Free Shipping Many posts of people who were penny wise, pound foolish. Crapbay part failed soon after installation (~1year). Now these people have to redo their labor or pay for someone's labor AGAIN. The clockspring connects your steering wheel airbag to the SRS/Airbag ECUs. Read post #3, and decide for yourself, if your life is worth $8 or $220.88. Be careful of counterfeit Clocksprings / Spiral Cables sold online | PriusChat ​ If you saw the pictures in the referenced thread in post #4, above, you will have seen that the clockspring cable is a few sheets of paper thick. As you know, nothing lasts forever. The car is a tough environment for things to function in: temperature fluctuations, road vibrations, and movement the part may directly experience. It should amaze you that the few sheets of paper thick, clockspring cable, lasts as long as it does. As for the stereo shop possible breaking the clockspring cable, ..., anything is possible. Ask yourself this, how likely is it that the stereo installer, turned the steering wheel all the way left, then all the way right, or visa versa, for a million/billion/trillion cycles, causing unnecessary wear on the clockspring cable? Click to expand...

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How should i know that my prius 2007 has cruise control system installed just need an aftermarket cruise control lever? Posted via the PriusChat mobile app .  

James Analytic Member

JimboPalmer said: ↑ One way to get these symptoms is to shift to B. Unless you are braking, it is hard to notice you have. While in B you can't use Cruise. Click to expand...

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