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The Admissions Welcome Center, located in Iosue Student Union, is where counselors offer information sessions and campus tours twice a day. There are many opportunities to visit and experience life at York College. Take a tour, come to an open house, sit in on a class, or meet with your admissions counselor. Come and see why York College may be the right choice for you!

Miller Administration Building

Miller Administration Building, which bears the name of the College's first president, includes the Office of President Pamela Gunter-Smith, Campus Operations, and Admissions. Students may visit Miller to stop by the Registrar's Office with questions on registering for classes, the Business Office for information on their account, or the Financial Aid Office to check on awards or scholarships.

Evelyn and Earle Wolf Hall

The center for artistic activity on campus, Wolf Hall, offers three art studios, two state-of-the-art video production studios, a recording and mixing control room, as well as a photography studio, music library, and several rehearsal rooms. The York College Galleries features exhibitions by students and outside artists, and DeMeester recital Hall is the site of a variety of musical events and lectures. Wolf Hall is home to the Department of Communication and the Arts; and Graphic Design majors have 24/7 access to MAC labs, located in the basement.

Campbell Hall

Campbell Hall is home to the Division of Academic Services, where students can find the help they may need through the Academic Advising Center, the Center for Professional Excellence, the Career Development Center, and Disability Support Services. Campbell Hall, as the home of the Department of Physical Sciences, also includes state-of-the-art chemistry instrumentation to support majors in Chemistry, Forensic Chemistry, and Pre-Med.

Appell Life Sciences Building

The Appell Life Sciences Building features laboratory and research spaces, including a tissue culture suite, microscopy lab, and walk-in cold room for Biology/Pre-Med and Nuclear Medicine Technology majors. The Building, is home to the departments of Biological Sciences, Behavioral Sciences, and Education.

Willman Business Center

Home of the Graham School of Business, the Willman Business Center features the 150-seat Weinstock Lecture Hall and the NASDAQ Trading Laboratory, which provides students with direct access to real-time financial data from stock and commodities exchanges.

Schmidt Library

In addition to its print and online collections, Schmidt Library loans out wireless laptops for use in the building, digital cameras, camcorders, and media projection materials. The building also provides quiet study floors, technology-enhanced group study rooms, comfortable lounge areas, and wireless network connections including the outdoor courtyard.

The Campus Fountain

The fountain, located at the center of York College's academic quad, is a favorite gathering place for students.

Humanities Center

The Humanities Center, home to the Departments of History and Political Science, and English and Humanities, features an oral history lab and museum studies room, film study labs and film screening room, and computer labs. The World Languages Media Center allows students to further delve into their language of choice, and the Center for Teaching and Learning offers academic help (like tutoring and writing assistance) to students. Also located in the Humanities Center includes our Information Technology Help Department.

Naylor Ecological Sciences Center

The Naylor Ecological Sciences Center, a visually stunning three-story structure topped by five greenhouses, provides teaching and research labs for ecological studies on plants and animals, a large aquaria space for students doing research with fish and invertebrates, a controlled growth chamber, and research spaces.

Northside Commons

Northside Commons houses 275 students in a five-story, air-conditioned residence hall that features single and double bedrooms. Home to a mix of freshman and returning students, it features a furnished lounge and common space.

Kinsley Engineering Center

The Kinsley Engineering Center is home to the Department of Engineering and Computer Science. The 43,000-square-foot building, a renovated historic factory, contains state-of-the-art laboratories, equipment, computers, and design facilities including a mechatronics lab, materials science, machine shop and welding lab, thermodynamics and fluid lab, and CAD lab.

Grantley Hall

Grantley Hall, located on West Campus, is home to York College's Office of Communications, Advancement Division, Alumni Relations, Community Education, and the Development Office.

The Nursing Education Center in Diehl Hall includes state-of-the-art simulation rooms and learning laboratories that replicate actual clinical settings. In addition, the Departments of Hospitality, Recreation, and Sport Management has offices, classrooms, and a computer lab for teaching ticket sales in Diehl Hall.

Grumbacher Sport and Fitness Center

The Grumbacher Sport and Fitness Center provides students, staff, and faculty with access to multiple recreation venues, including a three-court field house, the Charles Wolf Gymnasium, a state-of-the-art strength and fitness center, 12-lane natatorium, indoor jogging track, two-story climbing wall, racquetball court, and multi-purpose rooms.

The center is complimented outdoors by two synthetic surfaced and two natural grass playing fields, as well as an all-weather running track complete with throwing circles and jumping pits.

Little Run Lodge

Attached to the West Campus Community Center, Little Run Lodge houses students in a suite-style arrangement, with each air-conditioned suite for two to five students comprised of single and double bedrooms, a common area, and a bathroom.

West Campus Community Center

The West Campus Community Center is the focal point of student social life on West Campus. Located within the center includes a mailing center, MAC computer lab, group study rooms, TV lounges and comfortable seating by a fireplace, and a game room with billiards.

On the lower level is Alumni Hall, the site of many campus meetings and events. A recreational space outside the center features a sand volleyball court, grassy area to catch some rays, and an opportunity to grill your dinner.

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Virtual tours are a great way to refresh your memory or to preview an on-site tour of YCP.

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At the beginning of your college search, a virtual tour can be a beneficial tool to explore the campus before your visit. When you do visit the campus, be sure to talk to current students about their experiences. A student perspective is a helpful way to gauge your future experience when attending York College of Pennsylvania. Already took an on-campus tour? It's inevitable. All of your college tours will blend, and you might forget the appearance of YCP's library, dorms, or cafeteria. Use the virtual tour to jog your memory! With the interactive mapping tool below you can even explore the area surrounding the campus.

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Make York Your Home

When it comes to your ideal college life, where you live on campus (or how commuters are handled) might be as big a factor for you as academics. York College is a residential campus, meaning if you’re not a commuter, you will be required to live on campus. We offer modern living with apartments, houses, and suites for upper-level students as well as traditional residence halls. On campus, you’re never too far away from food, class, the fitness center, and more.

Need to Know Items

I want to live at york.

To live on campus, you'll need to:

1.  Fill out a housing application. This helps Residence Life get an idea where they can place you. The application is available through the student portal here my.ycp.edu . Step-by-step guidance is  available at ycp.edu/housing .

2. Choose a roommate, if you have one in mind. The roommate request period is April 15 – June 21, 2024.

First-year students are restricted in where they can live on campus. Common sites for first-year students: Penn Hall, Northside Commons, and the Manor Hall Complex.

Who do I need to know in my residence hall?

You’re not alone when you live on campus, even if you’re brand new! We have staff here to make you feel welcomed and secure. Once you have a residence hall lined up, find your staff members here: ycp.edu/housingstaff

Resident Assistants (RAs):

These are student leaders who help make sure you have the best environment for living and learning, from being on-call for your questions and concerns to providing programming and enforcing policy (like helping you out if a neighbor is being too loud.)

Area Coordinator (AC):

This individual is a “live-in,” professional staff member who coordinates and supervises the overall operation of the complex. They make sure things are safe, clean, and that students feel supported. Area Coordinators also serve as hearing officers in student conduct hearings for code of conduct violations.

Frequently Asked Questions

What should I bring?

See sample packing lists on our "Living on Campus" page

TIP: You don’t need to arrive in August with every possession! Pack enough to get you through the first break. You don’t need a winter coat and five blankets in August.

What should I not bring?

This is just as important. We don’t want you to be frustrated if something has to go back home! See the above page for specifics. But in general: no space heaters, no pets other than fish (unless you have special accommodation approval), no alcohol or drug paraphernalia, and no candles/incense/lava lamps. Nix the open campfire idea.

Want a microwave and/or fridge?

You can rent through  mymicrofridge.com   and it’s delivered right  to your room. We even have a linen purchase program.

What’s included in most rooms?

All traditional hall double rooms offer each student a bed, a desk, a desk chair, a wardrobe with drawers, a mirror, a towel-rack/hook, a desk light, blinds which are pre-hung on the windows, and wireless networking. In lieu of a wardrobe with drawers, some traditional halls will have an open closet with drawers. Windows are typically 4' wide by 5'8" high and the bedrooms are typically 12' wide by 16' long.

I have to do laundry (or so my family tells me). Where do I go?

Each hall/complex has laundry facilities. There are no additional fees for laundry. Students are responsible for collecting their items in a timely manner, as laundry rooms are shared by the community.

Who cleans my room?

Grab a mirror. Each student is responsible for cleaning their own room or apartment. The shared bathrooms are cleaned by YCP facilities staff.

Can I pick a roommate?

This is done through the housing software. There is a roommate request period April 15–June 21, 2024. Roommate requests may not be considered after the due date.

Please note that a roommate selection isn’t always cut and dry. If you or your roommate are athletes, are part of a Learning Community, or have housing accommodations, it may be difficult to satisfy everyone’s needs.

You will also be able to request up to three building preferences. Please discuss the options with your roommate.

Wait, what’s a Learning Community?

Several of the First-Year Seminar courses (a required course for incoming first-year students) as well as STEM Scholars offer a Learning Community. In short, you live with the students who are in your class so there’s more chance for personal growth and creating a community. Instant friendships and study groups! If that sounds appealing, you’ll want to try to sign up for that kind of First-Year Seminar class or apply for STEM Scholars . These all have limited availability. You can sign up for First-Year Seminar classes at New Spartan Days summer orientation.

Do I have to have a meal plan?

Students living in traditional or suite-style housing with no kitchen accommodations are automatically assigned a 165 Block Advantage meal plan with $275.00 dining points. This full meal plan gives students the advantage of using meal swipes in traditional dining halls as well as the flexibility to eat in on-campus retail dining locations by using dining points. You have the opportunity to change your plan to the 225 Block, 225 Block Advantage, or the Ultimate Plan. More information about each plan can be found at dineoncampus.com/ycp or on the Business Office website . Meal Plans can be used at “all you care to eat” dining facilities. Meals cannot be used in retail locations, but dining points can.

Can I bring my car?

Students may bring their car. However, it must have a YCP registration tag, which is available through the Department of Campus Safety. More information regarding parking regulations may be found by visiting the Campus Safety section. Parking permits cost $100 for residents and $50 for commuters for the academic year. Commuter students may register two vehicles. The second permit is free.

Have a bike? There are bike racks outside each residence hall or close by. Register your bike with Campus Safety.

I want to stay on campus during a break. What do I do?

If you need to stay over during any College break, you must fill out the Break Request Form by the announced deadline.

What about visitation?

Visitation in student rooms is permitted on the basis of the schedule and regulations below:

• Sunday–Wednesday, 12 p.m.-1 a.m.
• Thursday–Saturday, 12 p.m.-2 a.m.

All guests must be escorted in and around the building by their host resident at all times. From 12 p.m. until closing, all guests must sign in and out at the front desk of the lobby (if applicable). Photo identification must be left (college ID, driver’s license, etc.). Residents are responsible for informing their guests of policies, rules, and regulations. Students will be held accountable for their guest’s behavior. These policies extend to facilities without front desks as well. All non-student guests must be 18 years or older unless with their parent/guardian.

Visitors must obtain a visitor permit to park on campus in designated parking spaces. Please visit the Campus Safety webpage for information on obtaining a visitor parking permit.

I Want to Commute to York

If you’re a commuter, you have plenty of opportunities to get involved. At YCP, commuters are those students who live within a 35-mile radius of the campus and reside at their legal residence. Roughly one-third of our undergraduates commute to campus! Full details, including parking maps, can be found on our commuter page .

Tips for commuters:

Use the Commuter Lounge YCP has a space for you to chill in between classes. The lounge is on the bottom floor of the Student Union near Sparts Den. There’s a microwave, a TV, and lots of room to relax or get work done.

Get involved We find that the more you’re active early on, the better. It seems easy to skip out on clubs or attending a campus event, but it’s that much harder to feel connected! Sign up for a club and make a commitment to yourself to try a few events in the fall.

Make friends with residents A tip we hear from students is to connect with students who have the opposite living situation. If you’re a commuter, it can be super helpful to have a friend’s room to hang out. And resident students are known to be generous with card swipes into the dining hall for a commuter friend with access to a car!

Plan ahead We have plenty of parking, but if you have a habit of arriving last minute before class, you won’t always get a spot right near the building. Don’t rely on luck. Plan ahead and build a few minutes into your commute in case you need to grab a shuttle or walk.

Tell your professors that you commute YCP makes every effort to give the campus advanced notice of closures or delays. But if school is open, you’re expected to be in class, so make sure you know your professor’s attendance policies. And if you know that your commute might be delayed by inclement weather, construction, or other factors, it helps to let the professor know as soon as you can.

Health Services

Medical professionals in the Health Services Office are available by appointment and in emergency situations. The physician and advanced practice clinician are available to help treat minor illnesses as well as help you find local referrals. We can also help manage chronic illnesses in coordination with your home physician. Office hours are listed at ycp.edu/ health . Office visits do not have a charge; some tests, over-the-counter medications, and services have a nominal fee. The Health Services Office carries some prescription medications. Other medications may need to be fulfilled at a local pharmacy.

Have an emergency or are in need of help after hours? Please call Campus Safety at 717.815.1314 . Several after-hours care centers and hospitals are located in the area, as well. You’ll want to check with your family’s insurance company to determine your in-network coverage.

Medical treatment provided by the Health Services Office is provided confidentially under HIPAA regulations.

All new students must complete and submit the Student Health Forms on the PyraMED Student Health Portal before June 15; we need them in order for you to attend classes in the fall. Both commuters and residents must fill this form out.

Submission Instructions:

• Visit ycp.studenthealthportal.com
• Log in with your YCP credentials
• Once you are logged into PyraMED, you will need to complete the required forms by clicking on "My Forms" or the "Pending Forms" link. Please read all directions.

Medications

Unlike high school, where you might have had your medications stored in a nurse’s office, in college you are expected to be in charge of your own medications. If you have any questions, please contact the office.

Iosue Student Union, Room 116  Phone:  717.849.1615   Fax: 717.849.1601 [email protected]

Library and Technology Services (LTS)

At York College, what you think of as IT is known as Library and Technology Services . It's a department that handles everything from library books and multimedia requests to email accounts and network issues, and it’s based inside Schmidt Library at the heart of campus.

What you need to do:

It all revolves around having your YCP network account set up. We’ll be contacting you (if we haven’t already) with info on your username and password . This is what you'll use to access your "@ycp.edu" email account, use the MyYCP portal , where you pay your bill, sign up for parking, access class content, and check your grades in Moodle or Canvas. You need to log in to your account before New Spartan Days summer orientation to ensure it works properly.

Once you have access, make a point to regularly check your YCP email. Your YCP email is your official means of communicating with York College offices and departments. We’ll be transitioning communication away from your personal email address as we move through the enrollment process, especially for official communication from various offices around campus.

What’s more, you’ll need this account to sign up for classes at New Spartan Days summer orientation.

Tech questions

We’ll make sure you know much more about tech requirements during New Spartan Days, and before you begin classes you’ll need to review our acceptable use policy. More information can be found on the LTS Help Site .

We have WiFi available throughout campus, and Mac and PCs are both permissible. We often are asked if there’s a specific type of computer to get, but in general, there’s not a one-size-fits-all computer.Check out our computer recommendations . Don't have a  computer? We have computer labs available 24/7.

Printing, moving in, and more

Printing is available at several spots around campus; your flex card comes preloaded with a $10 credit for printing each semester

You’re welcome to stop by the LTS Help Desk, located inside the library, for a variety of tech questions as you start classes this fall. We can help connect your gaming system as well. You know, for playing video games after you’re done studying.

Schmidt Library

Say it with us: The library is here to help you! Along with study rooms and computers, we can help you with interlibrary loans, research for a project, and tracking down specific books or media. We also have quiet zones that are excellent for studying. You’ll find that the library is abuzz near the end of each semester during finals week. Check out more about the Schmidt Library at library.ycp.edu .

LTS Help Desk Schmidt Library 717.815.1559 [email protected]

Counseling Services and Additional Resources

The york college care team.

Our CARE team works with departments on campus to assist students with medical, social, and academic concerns. The team connects with students of concern to provide individualized resources and support for their personal and professional success.

We’re here for whatever you or a friend of yours needs to be in the best possible position for success and wellness.

The CARE team can be emailed directly at  [email protected] or reached through Residence Life at  717.815.1281 . Visit the CARE Team  page   for more information.

Counseling Services

York College’s Counseling Services Office assists students in finding solutions to life’s challenges by helping you manage stress and anxiety, learn new ways to deal with difficult situations, improve moods, mend relationships, and live your best life. To learn more about the confidential services this office offers or to complete an online mental health screening visit our Counseling page .

TimelyCare is a virtual health and well-being platform available to all full-time undergraduate students. Download the TimelyCare app from the App Store or Google Play and get access to medical care, counseling and emotional support, health coaching, psychiatry, and self-care content. Whether you need assistance at 5 a.m. or 10 p.m., TimelyCare can be accessed any time you need support, 24 hours a day and 365 days a year.

TimelyCare registration opens on August 1 and should be completed before August 23 by visiting timelycare.com/ycp .

Living and Commuting Checklist

Submit your health form and immunization records to the health office by june 15.

You cannot attend classes or live on campus without submitting your health forms. If you do not believe you can meet this deadline, talk with your admissions counselor.

Review Housing Options

You can browse through all of these options on the Residence Life & Campus Housing page.

Complete the Housing Application if You Will Be Living On Campus

Complete the housing application through MyHousing at my.ycp.edu

If You Bring a Vehicle on Campus, Register It

To park on campus, you'll need a parking permit through Campus Safety. This is available online through the MyYCP portal. Select the blue MyParking icon.

Registration opens August 1.

Get Familiar With Campus

The virtual tour and map is a great starting place. Find academic buildings, parking locations, banking on campus, shuttle stops, and more.

Register for TimelyCare before August 23

Receive access to 24/7 health and well-being resources by visiting timelycare.com/ycp. Registration opens on August 1.

Complete the Spartan Start Up Program

It’s a requirement for incoming students before they arrive — keep an eye out for an email to your YCP account. Spartan Start Up includes Alcohol-Wise, an educational program about alcohol, drug, and personal safety, and the Spartan Oath and Citizenship review about what it means to be an involved Spartan. Info and links are at ycp.edu/ newspartan under the Campus Life section.

This needs completed before you arrive for Move-In Day/Fall Orientation.

If you have any questions, please contact the Office of Student Conduct at  717.600.3874  or by email at  [email protected] .

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Columbia University deans accused Jewish students of asserting “privilege” — and mocked them for needing a place to “huddle” to avoid antisemitism and harassment on campus, new text messages released Tuesday show.

Associate deans Josef Sorett, Susan Chang-Kim, Matthew Patashnick and Cristen Kromm exchanged the dismissive and derisive texts while seated in the audience of a May 31 alumni event about Jewish life on campus, which were released in full by the House Education Committee.

“Laying the case to expand physical space! They will have their own dorm soon,” said Patashnick, associate dean for student and family support, in one message, prompting Chang-Kim, vice dean and chief administrative officer of Columbia College, to respond: “Comes from such a place of privilege.”

“Hard to hear the woe is me, we need to huddle at the Kraft center Huh??” Chang-Kim added, referring to the campus Hillel chapter. ​​”Trying to be open minded to understand but the doors are closing.”

“Amazing what $$$$ can do,” Kromm said, adding at another point: “If only every identity community had these resources and support.”

Columbia had featured multicultural graduation celebrations for black, Asian, Native American, LGBTQIA+ and “Latinx” students — but not Jewish students .

The May 31 panel had included Columbia’s Kraft Center for Jewish Life executive director Brian Cohen; former Columbia Law School dean David Schizer, who co-chaired the university’s task force on anti-Semitism; religious life dean Ian Rottenberg; and rising Columbia junior and journalist and the campus newspaper Rebecca Massel.

The Washington Free Beacon first obtained and reported on the text exchanges — including one that used vomit emojis in reference to an op-ed about antisemitism authored by Columbia’s Campus Rabbi Yonah Hain.

Chang-Kim, Patashnick and Kromm were later placed on leave .

“I’m going to throw up,” Chang-Kim wrote in response to another portion of the discussion when a Holocaust survivor, Orly Mishan, expressed fear about her daughter “hiding in plain sight” while student-protesters embraced Hamas following the terror group’s Oct. 7 massacre in Israel, the outlet noted.

“His use of the word Hamas is interesting,” Patashnick claimed elsewhere. “Students generally weren’t protesting for Hamas.”

A spokesman for the US-designated foreign terrorist organization endorsed the tent cities that popped up on college and university campuses nationwide last spring, praising them for having helped “ refute the Zionist narrative .”

“Jewish students deserve better than to have harassment and threats against them dismissed as ‘privilege,’ and Jewish faculty members deserve better than to be mocked by their colleagues,” Education Chairwoman Virginia Foxx (R-NC) said in a statement.

“These text messages once again confirm the need for serious accountability across Columbia’s campus,” she added of the exchanges, which had been provided voluntarily.

A Columbia University official told The Post that the school is “committed to combatting antisemitism and taking sustained, concrete action to ensure Columbia is a campus where Jewish students and everyone in our community feels safe, valued, and able to thrive.”

Sorett is also cooperating with the investigation into his three colleagues who were placed on leave and “will be recused from all matters relating to the investigation while continuing to serve as Dean of the College,” the official added.

Sorett previously issued a private apology to Columbia’s Board of Visitors, according to the Free Beacon, claiming that the texts, some of which he sent , did not “indicate the views of any individual or the team.”

Columbia’s Morningside Heights campus was a seedbed for many of the anti-Israel tent encampments at schools across the country, which called for universities to divest from Israel and opposed the Jewish state’s war against Hamas.

In late April, a mob of masked pro-Hamas rioters even occupied the university’s Hamilton Hall building, breaking a window with a hammer and flying a huge flag calling for “intifada” from a second-story window. Dozens were arrested within 24 hours — with many seeing their charges dropped by Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg.

Columbia President Minouche Shafik came under fire for refusing to say whether “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free” was an antisemitic phrase while testifying before Congress.

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Democratic worries about the president’s age have surged after thursday’s debate..

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From “The New York Times,” I’m Natalie Kitroeff. This is “The Daily.”

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President Joe Biden’s disastrous debate performance last week set off a furious discussion among Democratic officials, donors, and strategists about whether and how to replace him as their party’s nominee. Today, chief White House correspondent Peter Baker takes us inside those discussions and Biden’s effort to shut that conversation down.

It’s Monday, July 1.

Peter, you’ve been reporting on what I think can be best described as the great Democratic freakout that started basically from the moment the debate began at 9:00 PM on Thursday night. Tell us about the aftermath.

Yeah, I’ve been covering politics for 38 years, and I’ve never seen a political panic like we saw after that debate. It was like a run on the bank. Everybody in the Democratic Party was suddenly confronted with what they didn’t want to admit up until then, which is that they have an 81-year-old candidate who would be 86 at the end of his second term. And it’s very possible that he was not capable of completing this campaign in a vigorous and competitive way against Donald Trump. That’s what really it comes down to for many Democrats. Can Joe Biden take the campaign to Donald Trump and stop what they think is an existential threat to the country?

I want to know more about who you were hearing from. Who are the people that are calling you? What are the big questions they’re asking? What are they struggling with?

Yeah, I don’t want to get into too many names. A lot of people don’t want to be out front. But you did see even publicly, people like Senator Claire McCaskill.

Joe Biden had one thing he had to do tonight and he didn’t do it.

The former Senator from Missouri, red state Democrat, was on MSNBC just minutes after the debate.

He had one thing he had to accomplish, and that was reassure America that he was up to the job at his age. And he failed at that tonight.

She talked about this was a crisis, that her phone was blowing up with a lot of Democrats. And she was very forthright about it. It was very striking that she said that.

I think there’s a lot of people who are going to want to see him consider taking a different course now,

People like van Jones, who was on CNN, he used to work in the Obama White House.

We’re still far from our convention. And there is time for this party to figure out a different way forward, if you will allow us to do that.

He very candidly talked about how this was going to raise questions about whether the President should continue as the candidate.

Some Democrats are calling for Biden to step down. Andrew Yang —

Andrew Yang, who ran against Biden in 2020 for the Democratic nomination, popular with some younger voters, he said on social media it was time for Biden to step aside. Those are some of the public people. And obviously, in the hours and days that followed, more came out and said, well, this is something we need to think about.

But the people I was talking to were people behind the scenes, people who have run White Houses before, people who work for President Biden in this administration. I heard words like, “He can’t win.” “This is a disaster.”

“This is a nightmare.” And they were very, very concerned that he could not beat Donald Trump.

Right. And you saw these really prominent media figures, outlets, “The Times” as an actor in this situation calling for Biden to step aside. Our editorial board did this. We should say this is entirely separate from our newsroom from the show, but there was this real crescendo. And there was a sense that this was a turning point, right?

Absolutely. But it’s not just the media. I think what the Biden campaign would like it to be is about the media. It’s just that the media tends to be more out front and say things more openly than Democrats were saying. It really was rank and file Democrats. It really was high ranking Democrats, and they were absolutely flipped out.

Right. These doubts are coming from all over, from many corners. Take me through, Peter, the argument for why this poor performance meant that Biden should be replaced. How do they explain that thinking?

Well, look, a lot of people who defended President Biden will say is that incumbent presidents don’t do well in their first debate, and that is true. Historically, that’s been true. Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Donald Trump all lost, arguably, their first debate when they were running for re-election.

But the difference is, if Obama doesn’t register a good performance against Mitt Romney, first of all, nobody thought that Obama wasn’t capable of being president as a result. And second of all, he had another debate about a week or two later in order to try to recover. Neither of those factors works here.

Biden’s problem from this debate is much more existential. It’s much more profound because it’s about whether he is able to perform the office of president, not just for the next few months, but for the next 4 and 1/2 years. And there’s not going to be another debate until September. So he doesn’t have another big audience opportunity to change people’s minds, to show that, in fact, he does still have it and can run the country. And that’s a real problem for him.

And there’s this broader context here, right. Voters have been telling pollsters for a year now that Biden’s age is a major concern for them. We’ve seen Biden’s age before our very eyes. We’ve seen him stumble in speeches, in public appearances. And, Peter, we had talked to you about this very issue a few months ago after a special counsel investigating Biden’s son, Hunter, issued this report focusing on Biden’s mental state, in part, saying that the president was, quote, a “well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory” and had, quote, “diminished faculties in advancing age.”

But at the time, the White House dismissed that report as a partisan hit job. So in a sense, this debate performance was the capstone of something that’s been in the air for a very long time. It’s just that this time, it was undeniable. There was no spinning it.

Well, I think that’s exactly right. There was no spinning it. One Democrat put it to me. He said, for a long time, the fear of Trump stifled Democratic criticism of Biden. People didn’t want to criticize him because they desperately want to beat Trump.

But now, that same fear, he said to me, now meant that they could no longer stand behind Biden, that they worried that he had been diminishing over a period of time and that his staff and the people around him had hidden that from the public. There’s a real anger out there among some Democrats. Now, what the Biden circle would tell you is, no, we didn’t hide anything from you.

Yes, he does have moments where he is not as lucid as you would want him to be, but that, broadly speaking, when they see him operate, when they’re sitting with him in the Oval Office or in the situation room, he is sharp. He asks good questions. He understands and grasps the issues that he is confronting.

And I mean, we all have good days and bad days. But when you’re 81, your good days and bad days may be more pronounced.

And if he has good days and bad days, well, Thursday night was a very bad night.

Peter, I want to ask you about that, about your view on all of this, because I do think all this has raised this fundamental question for a lot of Democrats, for a lot of journalists, for voters, which is what you’re getting at. Was what we saw on the debate stage the real Biden? And had the White House been hiding him from us? Or were the people around him just unable to recognize the perils of this themselves? Like, have they been gaslighting us all, or are they in denial?

Yeah, it’s a good question. That’s the question in some ways, right. I think that people who work closely with the president and like him, admire him, respect him want to see the best in him and want everybody else to see the best in him. And they have been unwilling to admit whether or not he has slipped in the last 3 and 1/2 years.

And part of it may be strategic. They recognize in their view that he is the president. They’ve got to build him u and make him as successful as possible. And they have shielded him as much as possible from public scrutiny.

He hasn’t give as many interviews or as many press conferences as any of his predecessors going back to Reagan. He’s never getting interview to “The New York Times,” or “The Washington Post,” or “The Wall Street Journal,” or the “LA Times,” or any other newspaper, which is, I think, the first president, certainly in my lifetime, who hasn’t done that. And that’s been part of a pattern of them trying to protect him. And I think there’s kind of a reckoning right now among other Democrats, wondering whether they went too far.

OK. So we have this huge reaction to this moment, the debate from the Democrats in the news media. Can you walk us through how the Biden team responds to the full-blown panic?

His campaign was thrown into full-blown damage control over the weekend. And the President himself set out to do two things. First, privately, he met with donors and assured them, yes, he’s still a viable candidate and that they should still support him.

And then publicly, he went on a campaign blitz, traveling to seven events in four states. And his first stop on Friday, in fact, was at a rally in Raleigh, North Carolina.

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Hello, hello, hello.

This was already scheduled before the debate, but it gave him an opportunity to both show that he can do the job —

Thank you, North Carolina.

— to demonstrate vigor and vitality —

I don’t know what you did last night, but I spent 90 days and 90 minutes on the stage debating the guy who has the morals of an alley cat.

— and to address his own performance.

I know I’m not a young man. State the obvious. Well, I know.

And he says pretty candidly, he says, yeah, I’m not a young man.

I don’t walk as easy as I used to. I don’t speak as smoothly as I used to. I don’t debate as well as I used to.

But he goes on.

Well, I know what I do know. I know how to tell the truth.

And I know how to tell right from wrong.

And I know how to do this job. I know how to get things done. And I know, like millions of Americans know, when you get knocked down, you get back up.

And, you know, he comes across as pretty vigorous, pretty energetic. Of course, he’s reading from a teleprompter. Always a lot easier to read from a teleprompter. But I think more important than that was the body language and the spirit that he brought to the moment.

It sounds like teleprompter, not the Biden who appears at the rally is meaningfully different, at least in style from the President that we saw on the debate stage. I’m wondering if you think this has changed anything. Has the conversation changed?

No, not fundamentally. I think fundamentally that people still recognize that there’s an issue here. Now, there was pushback among Democrats saying, OK, take a breath. Get a hold of yourself. He’s not dropping out.

I don’t think you judge a person’s — the body of their work on one night. They don’t always go the way you want to. I have confidence in the President because he’s delivered.

And I understand that he had a raspy voice. But like I’ve told folks, who cares? We have a choice this November between someone that’s a good person, a good president with a real record of results, and someone that has brought shame on the presidency.

Don’t let 90 minutes define a career of a president who’s been in office for 3 and 1/2 years, been in politics for 50 years, and overshadow the important issues that he stands for. And so you heard that line of thinking in the spin room and on TV.

Look, I think Joe Biden had a bad debate night, but it doesn’t change the fact that Donald Trump was a bad president.

And by the way, Trump did terribly, too, which is a fair point. Trump may have been more lucid in the sense that he sounded stronger. But if you actually looked at what he said, listen to what he said, he said so many things that were just not true. And it helped Biden that former President Barack Obama put out a statement saying, hey, guys, I’ve seen bad debates. It’s fine. Don’t freak out, in effect, is what he said.

And Jim Clyburn —

And if he asked my opinion, I would give it, as I always do —

— who is his very close ally in Congress from South Carolina, the Congressman who helped get him the nomination in the first place, said, stay the course.

He should stay in this race. He should demonstrate going forward his capacity to lead the country.

So it was important to have those voices out there among prominent Democrats trying to calm the waters. But it only went so far because the waters are still churning underneath.

Peter, I’m curious how his donors are reacting to all this. I mean, you mentioned that part of his full court press is to reassure them that he’s got the mental acuity to run. How successful has he been at that?

Yeah, I think that there are certainly some donors who are resigned. They feel like there’s not much choice. But there are others who actually are considering jumping off the boat. Jumping on what Mika Brzezinski on “Morning Joe” called the hysteria train. And I think that it’s an open question.

But part of the thing is, of course, they’re waiting to see how the polls really shake out. The initial polls after any debate are often not really representative of how an event settles into the political narrative. And the polling and data so far have been kind of contradictory. On the one hand, it shows that Trump clearly beat Biden. Biden clearly lost, and that Biden has only reinforced the doubts that most voters have about his age and mental capacity. That’s absolutely true.

At the same time, there’s some polling showing that the overall horse race number, who are you going to vote for, hasn’t moved dramatically yet, if it does at all, and that it’s possible this is baked in that people who were going to vote against him are still going to vote against him. The people who would vote for him, holding their nose, may not be happy about it, may still be voting for him.

But there’s a tell. The tell was from the Biden campaign. When they put out a memo by Jen O’Malley Dillon, who was his top political person at the campaign, and she says if you see polls go down in the next few days or weeks, what’s telling is that she is, in fact, anticipating that polls would be bad for them and trying to set expectations for supporters and voters and donors saying, don’t let that panic you any further. That’s normal, and we’ll get past that just as we have other bumps in the road.

It seems like the Biden effort over the weekend has, in some sense, quieted some public doubts from key Democrats, right? There’s not a — we didn’t see a deluge of senior lawmakers going on Sunday talk shows and saying, Mr. President, step aside. But from what you’re saying and based on the reporting that we’ve seen from our colleagues, the effort has not, by any means, ended the discussion about replacing Biden. That is very much still happening under the surface.

Yeah. That discussion is very much alive among Democrats. Will Biden and should Biden remain as the candidate? And the question then becomes is if he doesn’t, what then?

We’ll be right back.

Peter, given that this discussion of Biden stepping aside is still, as you said, very much alive, what would it look like for someone to replace him on the presidential ticket at this point in the campaign just a few months before election day? It sounds like it would be pretty daunting.

Yeah. I mean, look, we have never had a situation like this, not certainly in modern times. No president has ever dropped out of the race so late in the cycle. And you have to remember a couple of things.

First of all, the Democratic National Convention, which would anoint a new nominee, is in late August. But they’re actually scheduled to take a roll call vote before the convention begins on August 7. So that means we have five weeks between now and when the roll call is scheduled to be held to decide a nominee.

If the president were to drop out, that would create this truncated, incredibly intense, incredibly wide open, incredibly volatile, short campaign to figure out who would be the nominee. And it’s complicated logistically. It’s complicated politically, it’s complicated in all sorts of ways. And we don’t really know what’s going to happen or how it would happen because we’ve never seen it before.

But it is conceivable. It is possible. The President has to decide that he’s not going to run. If that doesn’t happen, then there’s no contest. There’s no way anybody sees a forcing him off the ballot if he chooses to continue to run. That doesn’t seem to be any appetite for trying to find a way to undo his nomination other than with his consent.

He controls the 3,900 delegates that are going to be at the convention. They’re obligated to vote for him on the first ballot. So it has to be first, his decision on whether he continues to run. If he does, then that’s it. That’s the end of that question. But if he doesn’t, then it’s jump ball.

Would his replacement automatically be Kamala Harris as the vice president?

No, not at all. If it were after the convention and they were both nominated, and then he stepped aside at the last minute, then they probably would simply go to Kamala Harris because she had been ratified by the convention as the vice presidential candidate. That’s possible. But if we’re talking about a situation before the convention, it’s anybody’s guess. There’s about a dozen other prominent Democrats out there who are looking at jumping in if suddenly, the nomination is up for grabs.

But so who are we talking about? What are some of the most prominent names that have come up?

Well, other than Kamala Harris, you have a number of governors, particularly Gavin Newsom of California, Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan, J.B. Pritzker of Illinois. There are, of course, those who ran last time who might jump back in, in theory. Senator Cory Booker, Senator Amy Klobuchar, potentially even maybe Pete Buttigieg, who is currently the transportation Secretary.

But the ones who are going to have the best chance are those who have an apparatus already, who have a set of donors and fundraisers who can raise money instantly, and who have the ability to get on TV and get media attention without having to work as hard for it. And that does suggest, obviously, a sitting vice president or a sitting governor.

Basically hitting reset on the whole nomination process requires embracing a moment of genuine political chaos. I mean, that’s the theoretical downside of this. But of course, I mean, there’s also a potential upside, right? Massive media attention potentially for whoever the replacement Democrat is, the possibility that that replacement could energize a lot of Democratic voters and independents, and even potentially moderate Republicans out there who dislike Trump but just couldn’t get excited about Biden.

Yeah, absolutely. Whoever emerges will have a certain advantage of freshness, right. And that person will have a generational argument to make against Trump because whoever it would be would be younger than Trump. And suddenly, Trump is then the old candidate. He’s 78.

And that new Democratic candidate would be able to say, I’m the next generation. This guy is also too old to be president. And if you’re concerned about our guy was, can he make it through four years, then you should be picking me because the other guy can’t make it either through four years.

Now, the downside, of course, is these are people who are largely untested on a national stage, at least in this kind of an environment. And you don’t know how people will do once they actually jump in. They didn’t have the advantage of a year-long primary contest to prove themselves.

Before you jump into a race, you can look really attractive. Look at Ron DeSantis. Before he jumped in to the Republican primaries, on the Republican side, they all thought, wow, he’s really great. Didn’t turn out to be so great once he got on the campaign trail. The magic didn’t actually appear. So that’s the danger here, is we don’t know which of these Democrats, if any, would have the ability to shine when the big giant klieg lights are on them.

And we’re clearly in a delicate moment right now. But are any of these potential contenders trying to signal interest at this point? I mean, what does that look like? It sort of seems like the art of raising your hand for something but not wanting it to publicly.

Yeah, it’s a really good question because you obviously can’t do anything that seems disloyal to Biden, right. Nobody’s willing to take on Biden directly and say, I’m now running, and you should take him down. So the trick here is you have to be loyal, loyal, loyal right up to the minute that Biden says he’s not running, at which point then suddenly you’re off to the races.

And doing that from a standing start is not a good idea for any campaign. So they have to find ways of talking to their people, lining up donors, thinking about what kind of a campaign would look like, who might be their strategist, without letting anybody know that they’re doing that, or at least not let anybody in our business know that because it would obviously backlash on them. And that’s a very hard thing to do. I mean, I heard that there are people out there making phone calls who want to run, but nobody’s going to admit that outright because it would be damaging to them.

And in terms of logistics here — I know this is all very hypothetical — but if a new candidate were to become the nominee, do they get all the money Biden raised? Do they get his campaign team, or are they literally creating a presidential campaign from scratch with four months to go?

I mean, presumably, they would adopt a lot of Biden’s apparatus. As for the money, a lot of the money these days is in kind of superpacs and these sort of amorphous structures that can go immediately to a different candidate. And everybody who contributed to Biden can now contribute to the new candidate. And then Biden can still spend his money as he chooses in support of whoever the candidate is.

So there’s that advantage in a way it could actually increase some fundraising. But you’re right, they would be starting from scratch in a lot of ways, at least in terms of a national organization.

And obviously, for this to even happen, it relies on Biden stepping aside here, as you said. Everything you’ve laid out so far suggests that he is, for now at least, closed off to this suggestion. And I have to ask what you think from your reporting would change that.

Well, President Biden is a proud man. He’s a stubborn man. As a lot of people of any age are, he is reluctant to confront and face his own weaknesses, and he’s not going to be talked out of running by a bunch of media chattering class, pundits, and junior Democrats. I mean, think about it. He’s been running for president since 1987. And the idea that he is now in office and running the country and as he thinks it, running it pretty well, that he’s going to simply step aside because a bunch of people tell him he should, he reacts viscerally to that. Of course, he doesn’t want to do that.

In fact, when you talk to Democrats, they’re very conscious of not trying to push him because it could have the opposite reaction. It could trigger him to want to stay even more. The people who have influence with him, not that many people.

I mean, at this point, he’s been in politics since 1972 when he was elected to the Senate. And the people he considers his peers, most of them are gone. He’s not surrounded by people whose opinion he truly respects.

Obama and Clinton, the only two former presidents out there other than Jimmy Carter, who are Democrats, I don’t know that if they told him it was time to pull the plug, that he would listen to that. In fact, he might, again, do the opposite. He still resents Obama for discouraging from running in 2016.

Obviously, congressional leaders like Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Hakeem Jeffries, Jim Clyburn, people like that, could have an influence if they were to go as a group to him in a way like the Republicans went to Nixon in 1974 and said that he wasn’t going to survive. Maybe that might influence him. But I don’t think they’re likely to do it. It doesn’t look like they’re likely to do that.

Who does have his ear? I mean, who does he really listen to? Who do we know he’s going to be listening to in this moment?

Well, the real people he listens to the most are his family. He’s a very family-oriented guy. Remember, he went home to Wilmington almost every night when he was a Senator. Even now as president, he flies home to Wilmington most every weekend.

And he’s at Camp David this weekend with his family. They’re there because they had already planned to be together for a photo shoot, ironically, with Annie Leibovitz. So the family was already gathering at Camp David —

— gives him an opportunity. Right. And it gives him an opportunity to have a heart-to-heart conversation with the people who mean the most to him, in particular, Jill Biden, of course, the first lady and his sister, Valerie, the kids, and the grandkids. We don’t know what that conversation looks like.

I mean, that’s as private as it comes. Someday they’ll be histories written and memoirs written. And I’m fascinated to read what’s happening this weekend at Camp David, because I think it’s kind of pivotal. But what we do know is that up until now, at least, Jill has been all in.

She’s been encouraging him to run. And it sounds like she’s been encouraging him to stay in. And a lot of people think her voice is the most important voice in this.

And just to pause on this for a second, Peter, it sounds like you’re saying something pretty remarkable, actually, which is that this very small handful of people have influence over what is going to be a massive decision that affects hundreds of millions of Americans and really the entire world.

Well, don’t underplay it. But yeah, that’s exactly right. And you’re right to point out the stakes here, because it’s not just about Joe Biden and his future. It is about this presidential race. And it is about whether you want Donald Trump back in office. That’s the way most Democrats look at it. And the difference between a Biden presidency and a Trump presidency is about as stark as you can imagine. And this will have consequences that will ripple out for years to come.

Peter, I kind of want to end where we began this conversation, which is with this question of Democrats’ mindset right now, post-debate, and the question of what’s motivating them in this moment. Privately, they’re talking about replacing Biden. They seem too scared to do that publicly for all the reasons we’ve discussed, including that the White House is basically telling them to stop talking about it and that Biden probably won’t step aside anyway. So all of this may just be useless hand-wringing.

And all of that raises a pretty essential question for me, which is, are Democrats about to recommit to a damaged nominee who had a disastrous debate, who may only get worse over time out of loyalty to President Biden? Or do you think on some level they really believe this is all just overblown, that it’s one debate, everybody has bad days, and Biden really can recover from all this?

I think there’s a lot of doubt in the party that he can really recover from. This is the argument obviously the Biden campaign is making. And it’s really the only argument they have available to them to say, look, don’t overreact here. It’s just the media hyperventilating. We will recover like we’ve recovered before.

And it is what they have to say because they don’t have anything else that they can say. But almost every Democrat outside of the inner circle that I talk to says this was a complete disaster. They are not sugarcoating it. They saw what they saw with their own eyes, and they think that it’s not tenable for the campaign to pretend otherwise.

And it’s particularly devastating because the weakness of the Biden campaign has always been concerns about his age. People have expressed that to pollsters and in interviews with reporters going back more than a year. And now they just saw it for themselves on TV, in their living rooms, more than 50 million of them. And to convince them not to believe what they saw with their own eyes is just a monumental task politically.

So for Biden’s team and for the Democrats, it’s a big roll of the dice. Do you stick with him and try to correct the damage in the four months you have? Or do you say, it’s time for somebody else, which is going to be a roll of the dice itself?

And assuming Biden continues, Peter, it sounds like we won’t know if that bet, that bet that he’s the only one that ever beat him. He’s the only guy that can get this done, if that was solid or diluted thinking until November 5.

On November 5, or whatever day of the election is resolved, we will know how history judges this. And maybe everybody looks back on this and says, well, that was close, but they were right to stick it out because they won. Or in fact, it was a disastrous decision, and they wasted an opportunity to fix campaign that was already having trouble. Hindsight will be perfect, but there’s no question that this weekend will be remembered as perhaps the most decisive of this campaign.

Peter, thanks for coming on.

Thanks for having me.

After we spoke with Peter, “The New York Times” reported that while at Camp David, Biden’s family urged the president to stay in the race, arguing that, yes, he could still show voters he’s capable of serving another four years.

Here’s what else you need to know today. Early projections show that France’s far-right national rally party won a decisive victory in the first round of voting for the country’s national assembly on Sunday. National rally, an anti-immigrant party long on the fringes of the French political scene, captured about a third of the vote, according to polls, and now appears poised to become the largest force in the lower house of parliament.

The results dealt a blow to French president Emmanuel Macron, who took a gamble by dissolving parliament last month and calling for snap elections. But his bet that the far right wouldn’t repeat its recent success in European parliament elections backfired. A run-off election between the leading parties will be held on July 7.

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President Biden’s disastrous debate performance last week set off a furious discussion among Democratic officials, donors and strategists about whether and how to replace him as the party’s nominee.

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