trek madone 5.9 2011

The 2011 Trek Madone 5.9 is a triathlon/road bike with a carbon frame. The frame has a Gloss  White finish. It was released in 2011 and costs $3,989 brand new. Due to the frame materials and other factors, we estimate that this bike weighs around 20 pounds. The Madone 5.9 2011 is fully rigid.

The Madone 5.9 2011 comes with Shimano components, including a Bontrager Race X Lite stem, an integrated tapered headset and Shimano Ultegra STI shifters.

The Madone 5.9 2011 has 10 speeds and has a Shimano derailleur.

It comes with Bontrager R3 tires (622mm x 23mm) and Bontrager Race Lite rims.

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Trek Madone 5.9 – First ride review

Revamped for 2011

Paul Smith - www.smithpic.co.uk

Warren Rossiter

We loved last year’s top-flight 6 series Trek Madone, describing the Project One as ‘highly technical, super-light, super-stiff but above all incredibly comfortable’, and awarding the 6.9 Radioshack 10 out of 10.

So we were pleased to hear that the 2011 second-tier 5 series is based on the flagship frame. Compared to last year’s beefy, oversized tubeset, the new 5 series Madone has a classy, minimalist look, and Trek claim this diet has reduced frame weight by more than 150g.

While the top-of-the-range Madone is still built in the USA with Trek’s OCLV technology, production of the 5 series has moved to Asia and uses TCT – Trek Carbon Technology – a process that, according to Trek, has made the Madone 5.9 15 percent stiffer than 2010 frames.

Unfortunately, that extra stiffness has turned what was a sublimely cushioned ride into something more neutral. It feels much more of a racer’s tool – it’s great whipping it up to a sprint, but when climbing or riding along on the flat the overriding feeling is of rigidity.

Our demo model came with a mixture of Shimano Dura-Ace and Ultegra – a Dura-Ace chainset and rear mech combined with Ultegra front mech, brakes and levers. The remainder of the bike is finished with in-house Bontrager kit, including Race Lite RX wheels, a carbon seatpost, and aluminium bar and stem.

The wheels are simple, solid and not too weighty, while the bar and stem combo keeps the front end sharp with no real flex to be felt except on the roughest surfaces. The new frame has fully internal routed cabling which gives the bike a much neater look, but will make maintenance something best left to your local bike shop.

Overall, the Trek 5.9 seems less of a sportive machine and more an out-and-out race weapon, more about efficiency and less about being a nice place to be. Ultimately, we’re a little disappointed by that.

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Trek Madone SL 5.9 Road Bike

• OCLV 110 Carbon Frame
• Bontrager Race XXX Lite
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• Shimano Dura-Ace Rear Derailleur
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Speed,' weight, climbs, handling ability. Smooth shifting with Dura Ace.

None. This bicycle has no weaknesses. You can certainly buy more expensive bicycles. For most of my 25 year cycling career, I've been a Trek rider. In 1997 I bought a Trek 5200 with Ultegra components. Loved it. Two years later, I bought a Trek 5500 Postal bike with Dura Ace. That was the smoothest shifting, fastest bike I ever rode. Two years ago, I traded it in forv a 4.9 with 105 components. Trek had come a long way with their 105s. 6000 miles later, I bought the 5.9 with Dura Ace and Cosmic Carbones. Before I made the purchase I read a review that called the 5.9 "racing royalty" . It's truly that. I couldn't agree more. Faster, smoother, lighter, and again much faster. I'm 60 with an easy 20,000 miles under my belt. I upgraded the saddle because, well, I'm 60. No problem keeping up with 35 year old speedsters. Very smooth shifting. It needed tweaking due to cable stretch after 200 miles. One 100 mile ride. H2!setup is perfect for me. I'm ecstatic. I would recommend this bike to anyone. Can't see an upgrade in the near future. Very happy and satisfied with my purchase. It's painted flat black. My wife thinks it looks like a stolen bicycle that someone spray painted. What she doesn't know won't hurt her. It's beautiful. , such as those with Di2, however this is a different animal.

For most of my 25 year cycling career, I've been a Trek rider. In 1997 I bought a Trek 5200 with Ultegra components. Loved it. Two years later, I bought a Trek 5500 Postal bike with Dura Ace. That was the smoothest shifting, fastest bike I ever rode. Two years ago, I traded it in for a 4.9 with 105 components. Trek had come a long way with their 105s. 6000 miles later, I bought the 5.9 Madone with Dura Ace and Cosmic Carbones. Before I made the purchase I read a review that called the 5.9 "racing royalty" . It's truly that. I couldn't agree more. Faster, smoother, lighter, and again much faster. I'm 60 with an easy 20,000 miles under my belt. I upgraded the saddle because, well, I'm 60. No problem keeping up with 35 year old speedsters. Very smooth shifting. It needed tweaking due to cable stretch after 200 miles. One 100 mile ride. H2!setup is perfect for me. I'm ecstatic. I would recommend this bike to anyone.Very happy and satisfied with my purchase. It's painted flat black. My wife thinks it looks like a stolen bicycle that someone spray painted. What she doesn't know won't hurt her. It's beautiful. Two wheeler dealer really stands behind what they sell.

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Trek 5500 Postal with DuracAce, Lightspeed Titanium, Trek Madone 4.9.For most of my 25 year cycling career, I've been a Trek rider. In 1997 I bought a Trek 5200 with Ultegra components. Loved it. Two years later, I bought a Trek 5500 Postal bike with Dura Ace. That was the smoothest shifting, fastest bike I ever rode. Two years ago, I traded it in 4.9 with 105 components. Trek had come a long way with their 105s. 6000 miles later, I bought the 5.9 with Dura Ace and Cosmic Carbones. Before I made the purchase I read a review that called the 5.9 "racing royalty" . It's truly that. I couldn't agree more. Faster, smoother, lighter, and again much faster. I'm 60 with an easy 20,000 miles under my belt. I upgraded the saddle because, well, I'm 60. No problem keeping up with 35 year old speedsters. Very smooth shifting. It needed tweaking due to cable stretch after 200 miles. One 100 mile ride. H2!setup is perfect for me. I'm ecstatic. I would recommend this bike to anyone. Can't see an upgrade in the near future. Very happy and satisfied with my purchase. It's painted flat black. My wife thinks it looks like a stolen bicycle that someone spray painted. What she doesn't know won't hurt her. It's beautiful.

The bike is fast, stiff, light and comfortable. The frame is strong in crashes as well. If you set it up with some good and stiff wheels like the Mavic Ksyrium SLS wheels or some nice carbon race wheels, you'll have one hell of a bike.

None that cannot be fixed. The bike should come with carbon handlebars. It could have a different paint job, but I'm not one to judge.

I have had this bike since summer of 2009. I have raced it about 50 times and have crashed 3 or 4 times since I've had it. As a junior, I searched for an affordable used bike and found this one for 1500 dollars. Since then I have replaced the handlebars, seat, and the wheels. In my mind, there is no better bike to have for the price. I absolutely love it; so much that I would hang it on my wall if it breaks. It is just that good. I received a Felt F2 with dura-ace 9000 on it for my graduation present and race bike for my time at the U of U. The Felt is a great bike but there is something that it's missing. It's just not as comfortable nor does it have the beloved classic looks that the Trek has. The trek will always be my favorite bike.

Wicked light, great climber, fast, great handling, and comfortable.

None really so far. I did have to fiddle with the front brakes a bit to get rid of some grabbiness but this was just a shoe adjustment issue.

After many years off the road and pounding single-track with my Fuel 100 Full Suspension MTB I decided it was time to get back into road riding. I've been a Trek OCLV fan for years, particularly since they replaced my Fuel frame under warrantee, so I started looking at the road offering and settled on the Madone. I'm a pretty big guy at 192cm and 100 kg and a very aggressive rider so I needed something strong, stiff, "bulletproof", and with dialed in handling, and since I'm used to XTR quality components on my Fuel I wanted a full Dura-Ace group. So I try a few bikes and then spy this 2007 Madone SL 5.9 on the wall at what looks to be a pretty good price and I try it out. Well, perhaps Trek's latest frame is a little "tricker" but this bike has classic looks and man, does it go. This thing climbs like crazy, accelerates like a demon, and goes exactly where you point it ... and ... it rides really well. On top of that it is unbelievably light and I you just can't beat OCLV carbon I guess because as stiff as this is I can bang out a 100km ride without feeling like I've been beaten with a bag of doorknobs. So yeah, I'm really happy with it and logging at least 250-300 km/week.

First road bike in 20 years but avid MTB rider so although I guess I can't compare to comparable road bikes I do not how to ride and know top end gear.

Comfortable, great handling. Warranty on frame and parts. Excellent quality, no compromises on parts. For AUD4500, I got a full Dura-Ace, excellent frame, carbon stem, carbon handle bars, carbon seat post, and super fast and light wheels.

Design and paint job. Other bikes look a lot better. The bike was discounted because it had the Disovery Channel paint job and it was a 2007 model. Not a big deal for me, as I am more interested in the quality of the bike than the look.

My previous bike was a Trek 5200 1999 model. The geometry and handling of the Madone 5.9SL is very similar. Both are excellent bikes. The main differences, other than price, is the lightness of the 5.9SL and the stiffness. Dura Ace shifts a bit smoother than Ultegra.

LeMond Chamberry, Trek 5200, Felt SR25, Giant

Frame second to none. Whatever you want to do on this bike it does.

Should have a carbon bar.

This bike was a dream come true. It sprints like a rocket, climbs solidly and goes exactly where you point it. I tell people that it's like a cheap camera, point and shoot and off it goes! The OCLV ride is second to none, and I have ridden many of the competitors bikes but kept coming back to the Trek. I originally wanted a 5.2 SL, but events worked out better and got the 5.9 and have not looked back.

Madone 5.2 SL, Argon 18 Krypton, Trek 5200.

Bankable lifetime warranty on the frame for this freak defect. Same frame, same Andromeda colour (eventhough not a current colour at the time of the claim).

It did take 4 months to replace the frame but this was over the Xmas period and it had to get to Australia from the US.

See my previous review for my initial comments which still stand. This is an update review on a warranty claim. After about 1 year, the bond between my dropout and chain stay failed while climbing out of the saddle. Trek's answer? Repair under warranty. Confidence in my 5.9sl was a little shaken and training suffered but I kept riding for a few months until the repair also failed. Trek's new answer for 18 month old 15,000km frame? Replacement under warranty. I'm pumped, confidence in the bike is back, training kms are up and peak fitness levels are returning- all at no financial cost. After 2 years, I am as happy with the bike as the day I bought it. With the introduction of the new Madones, this is now a classic yet still competitive bike that I'll keep riding thanks to the frame replacement warranty.

Fast, efficient and powerful. Non slopping top tube is superior to cramped compact geometry, it is more aero and bio mechanically it suits me better. The finish is great and quality of the ride and workmanship is second to none. This bike warrants all five stars. A real performer.

The only real weakness that I have noted compared to other bikes I have used; is soreness experienced in the gluteul region following long rides. This bike bears less compliance than others and thus your behind is made fully aware following long hard efforts in the saddle. However I feel that this is a small compromise for a machine that is built to go fast.

This bike was simply built for speed. I sourced the best components (within reason) and put together, a bike that will dominate in all respects. I picked the frame up for a steal through a friends sponsorship commitments. The ride quality of this bike is absolutely amazing the rake in the fork makes the handling aggressive and the geometry provides for controlled and reliant cornering. The bottom bracket in the Madone SL is very stiff and yields the best transfer efficiency of any bike which I have ridden or raced. The rear on the Trek is perfectly engineered for fast efficient power transfer resulting in a lethal turn of speed and sprinting ability in the bike. The rear wheel stays firmly planted when the rider is out of the saddle and tearing away in the 53x11. The climbing capabilities of this bike are fantastic. The light weight of the frame and the rigidity of the bottom bracket deliver an aggressive climbing machine. The finish on the frame is impeccable. Unlike other manufacturers that merely use their frames as marketing devices Trek opts for understated Graphics which help to establish a sense of quality. The Andromeda paint scheme is very attractive. It is different to most other bikes on the market and it just looks fast. Overall the Trek Madone 5.9sl is an amazing race bike which delivers race bike feel and race bike speed. Simply put when you put the foot down this bike goes, up hill or on the flat this is a real thoroughbred and is a joy to ride.

Bianchi 928, Bianchi Alloy, Giant TCR carbon.

comfortable machine, even for the super long rides and honestly the best climbing bike I've ridden

Though I never notice this on the road it sure does flex in the bb on the trainer under pressure. Trek also does a piss-poor job with paint and design. However that is not a priority. Value rating is 4 because the 5.5sl is $1500+ less with a gain of only +/-250g

I ride the hell out of this thing. I wrote a review here a long time ago on this bike and in short I simply want to restate my position on this thing. It really is a good bike. I'm 145lb and more of a climber than a sprinter and this bike is perfect. On long hauls it is very comfortable. On even the most technical high speed descents it is sure footed and crisp. For me all the stock stuff has worked out beautifully and I've had no need to switch anything. Heavier riders may be bummed out by the front flex in the race x lite wheel on standing climbs. That said I've grown to love these wheels and have had them very close to 55mph with no creepy stuff. If you like a compliant ride and enjoy the art of climbing I really do, even after 20,000 miles recommend the madone. If you want a sexier looking, less functional machine go elsewhere.

Scott, Specialized, Schwinn, Litespeed, Merlin, Cannondale, Seven, Cervelo

Climbing supremicy (Seated or Standing) Comfort, position, ergonomics. Trek reliability and warranty.

Low quality stock paint on some. Price of new SL = $1,000 Lance Tax. (My value rating is for new). If you can find a 2004 in excel. shape - buy it. Not the lightest in the world, but very durable.

This is an update to a previous review. I just want to confirm that this is the bike! I first road the SL in 2004 and immediately fell in love. Hands down the best out of saddle climber out their. Now that I own one I can say that there are no dissapointments. I toasted my brother who's been training all summer on a final climb after about 45 miles of hilly terrain. Normally, I'm the one sucking air. The 2004 is the best looking of the bunch and comes with the Triple X front fork. Hopefully Trek with improve their stock paintwork. If you have the bucks get a project one paint job.

Trek 5200, Cannondale, Merlin, Scott - Aluminum, Steel & Carbon.

race-ready and stupid light.

rider, still!

Already written below on this right after initial purchase so I'll keep it short. I've about 1 year and 5000 miles on my 5.9 Sl including training and racing. Bottom line is that it remains a hell of a ride, and after a couple of crashes including one nice 35mph+ dismount with company I can attest to the frames relative strength. It's a bit scratched up and has some missing paint chips but it still rides as well as the day I got it and esaily has a few more seasons in it. Components are boarderline perfect though the chains wear quickly (currently on my 3rd one). Beyond that the bike is still entirely stock. Honestly not sure it's faster than other dialed-in rides out there but it sure is light and the ride quality is terrific and comfortable, though hold on tight in high crosswinds. In any event zero regrets here. Buy one, you'll like it.

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Bike components.

5 Series TCT Carbon, E2, BB90, internal cable routing, DuoTrap compatible

Suspension Fork

Bontrager Race X Lite w/E2 aluminum steerer, carbon crown and legs

Rear Derailleur

Shimano Dura-Ace

Front Derailleur

Shimano Ultegra

Shift Levers

Shimano Ultegra STI, 10 speed

Shimano Ultegra 11-28, 10 speed

Shimano Dura-Ace, 50/34

Bottom Bracket

BB90, 90.5mm, press-fit

Bontrager Race Lite

Bontrager R3, 700x23c

Shimano Ultegra brakes w/Shimano Ultegra STI levers

Bontrager Race X Lite, 7 degree, 31.8mm

Bontrager Race Blade VR, 31.8mm

Integrated, cartridge bearings, sealed, alloy, 1-1/8" top, 1.5" bottom

Bontrager Affinity 2, hollow chromoly rails

Bontrager Ride Tuned Carbon seatmast cap, 20mm offset

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Model overview.

Madone 5.9 completes the Trek Madone model. There are 360 bikes that carry this model name. Take a sneak peek at all Trek Madone bikes models from 2011 , by clicking here .

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Internal Cable Routing

This bike has an internal cable routing. As a result, this helps to preserve the bike’s cables. No more cables around your bike.

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The fork is made out of carbon, so, it’s a great addition to the bike’s value. However, carbon forks should be regularly inspected for damage because even the smallest crack could cause the fork to fall apart.

When leaving the production line, the Madone 5.9 model has 700c aluminum wheels. These wheels are the most used kind for road bikes in general. However, these wheels don’t perform so well when passing over obstacles.

We ride faster and faster, so a good braking system is essential on a bike nowadays. The Madone 5.9 comes with Rim brakes. Rim brakes deliver an average performance overall. However, they are not nearly as effective as hydraulic brakes are.

Madone 5.9 comes in 7 sizes , that range from 157 cm – 195 cm (5.15 ft – 6.4 ft) . In short, it won’t be difficult to find the right one for you.

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Why It’s Cool hen the Trek engineers responsible for keeping Lance Armstrong in yellow had lightened the man’s frame as much as they could, they turned to aerodynamics. Using a wind tunnel, the team refined the tubing on what would become the Madone to eliminate tiny drag differences that purportedly added up to a minute over 125 miles. If that sounds way too weenie for you, consider Lance’s winning margin in last summer’s big race: 61 seconds. » The Madone is decked out with the latest version of Shimano’s top-of-the-line Dura-Ace parts. The components are precise like surgical instruments, while adding stiffness, shaving weight, and squeezing in an extra gear to make 20 speeds. » Every last part is curated for weight, like the Bontrager Race X Lite wheels, bar, and stem. The final package weighs an astonishing 15 pounds 12 ounces.

Hmmm . . . It costs a full grand more than the 5500, Trek’s longtime standard in carbon-fiber bikes, and we can’t really see why.

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Upgraded 2012 Madone 4.5 or 5.9 Frameset

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Hey folks, Bear with me for a moment here. I am in the process of making the move from aluminum to carbon. I just got back from the LBS test riding a bunch of bikes today. I currently ride a 2012 Felt F85, so I began by test riding carbon Felt bikes. I actually had my heart set on staying with Felt since I have enjoyed my F85. The F6 rode really well, very smooth and lighter than I expected. I was pretty much sold, but the guys at the LBS then convinced me to try a 2012 Madone (I previously tried a 2011 4.5 and I liked the Felt better). To make a long story short The 2012 4.5 was AMAZING!! It was best ride I have taken on a bike yet (and I have tested everything from Cervelo to Trek, to Felts). This thing made the road feel so smooth and I felt like I was working half as hard to go faster than I was on the Felt (that BB90 is incredible technology). My only problm with the 4.5 was that it comes with Shimano 105 on it and I have fallen for Sram. I am looking to have Rival or Force on my next bike (I have a Shimano 105 based system on my current bike and I simply like Sram a lot better). That leaves me with a couple of options: Buy the 4.5 at a great price and upgrade the components and wheels (and then try to sell the stuff that came on the bike I don't want--which ends up being pretty much everything but the frame) or buy the 5.9 frameset for a little more and then just add the other components and parts when I can (but end up with a bike that has everything I actually wany). I guess my question for you all is whether the 5.9 (5 series) frame is superior enough (over the 4 series) to warrant the extra cost of passing on a complete bike to use it as a build? If it isn't I can just get the 4.5 and enjoy riding it while I am collecting upgraded parts. What do you think?  

Have them order the 4.6. Madone 4.6 - Trek Bicycle The 5 series frame is a better ride and worthy of a nice build too.  

Yeah, we talked about the 4.6 today. I just couldn't embrace the black and the blue together visually, but you are right.... it probably is the most logical option from a $$$$ standpoint. I like the look of the 5.9 better though and it might actually last me longer. How much better is the ride?  

Do they have any built 5.2's etc? Any 2011 or 2012 5 series will have the same frame. Trek also has the 2011 5.1 on closeout but the paint is unique. Hard for me to put to words what you'd feel but better carbon and lower weight frame 2011 Madone 5.1 C H2 - Trek Bicycle  

None in my size unfortunately and all the 2011s in size 52 are sold out. I'm leaning toward the 5.9 frameset, but the price of the 4.5 and 4.6 are hard to pass on. I just wish the 4.6 came in better colors.... Oh well, thanks for the input.  

Takes this advice from someone who bought a 11 Madone 4.5 and put SRAM rival group with a red crank. No matter how much upgrading you do it will always be a 4.5, I recently rode a 2012 6.2 and my 4.5 feels like a P.O. S. I learned the hard way the frame is the most important part of a bike, than wheels and than components.  

Yeah, I've rode both the 2011 4.5 and the 2012 4.5 within the last month. I also rode a 2012 Madone 5.2 today. All of them are more comfortable than a lot of rode bikes, but the 2012s are in their own class. I think you might be surprised if you tried a 2012 4.5, it seems way closer to the 5 or 6 seies than the 2011 4 series was. The 5.9 was extremely impressive in all aspects, but I'm not sure there is $1,200.00 worth of difference in there for 2012. I'm still leaning toward the 5.9 frame though since I really want SRAM components and RXL wheels.  

Taht's a 5.2 frame I rode today (thanks to the folks at Spokes, etc.) not a 5.9, but the frame is the same.  

Rashadabd said: Taht's a 5.2 frame I rode today (thanks to the folks at Spokes, etc .) not a 5.9, but the frame is the same. Click to expand...

Just to let you know that I went from an Alu/CF 2004 Trek 2100 to the new 2012 Madone 4.7. Even though it was brand new off the line, I got a great deal from my LBS. I like the Ultegra Group throughout (except Cassette) and it's very smooth and quick. So relaxed a frame that I'm asking the LBS to adjust the handlebar down a notch. Good luck with your decision. But if you are interested in SRAM componentry I see that the Trek Website is offering 2011 Madone 5.9...(SRAM Force) at $2999 through their dealers....  

No question, go with the 5 series frame. Last time I looked, they had a pretty good deal on the 5.9 frameset. Buy it, and build it with what ever group set you want. I have a 2011 5.2 (same frame as the 5.9) and have also owned a 4.5. No comparison between the two.  

I have the theory that your only gonna truly be happy with the frame you truly want. If you settle than for the 4.5 your gonna always know you settled. Go with the 5.9, I did. I purchased a 2011 5.9 frame this fall after falling into a decent deal. I then built it up with parts from my old bike till I could afford new components to make it what I wanted. I have been really happy with it's ride and my choice. This winter I have slowly pieced together a Sram Red group and custom wheels for the 5.9 frame. I know it's gonna really rock after I swap it out when the weather gets better. To let you know I tried different bikes from Trek, Felt, Giant and Specialized before setting my sights on the Madone 5.9. I just liked it's ride the best of them all. Choose whats gonna make you the happiest. I'm sure you already know what that is.  

Go with the 5.9. If you don't, you'll always wish that you had. I've got a 4.7, and I really wish that I had bought a 5.5 or 5.9. I changed over to Sram Force & RXL wheels, but it's still a 4.7. The 2012 frames are definitely a step up from the 2011's, but still, the 5.9 has internal cable routing and is an overall better frame.  

I spoke to my local Trek rep. about the difference between the 2011 and 2012 5.9 models. He says the only real difference is the all carbon steerer tube on the 2012 version vs an alloy tube on the 2011 5.9. Also the carbon is labeled as OCLV on the 2012 where it's TCT carbon on the 2011. The rep.says that there really isn't any true difference between them other than the name for marketing. They changed to OCLV because that is what the market wanted from a high end Trek. (Don't know how true that is but it's what he said) I have ridden both and I can't tell them apart. If I had a choice I would get the 2012 for the carbon steerer tube. I will also say the BB90 BB was a pain to set up correctly. I had a lot of trouble getting it to spin freely because of drag created by the non drive side bearing seal that is provided with the Sram BB bearing kit. I ended up going back to the Trek store and trading the seal with a similar one they had before I had drag free spin of the cranks. I'm sure the seal would have eventually worn in and the problem would have went away, but I wasn't gonna wait.  

I suspected that the "OCLV" label on the 3, 4 & 5 series frames for marketing purposes, TCT just doesn't sound as good. Why Trek ever used that term is a mystery to me. My 2004 1200SL has an OCLV fork, which I doubt is better than the TCT fork on my 2011 4.7. I'm curious as to how much stiffer the BB90 on a 2012 4.x or 5.x is over the external cup BB on the 2011 4.7 frame. I'm 165 lbs, I don't mash too much (I stand up on hills if I'm pushing it), and I average 16.5 -18.1 MPH on 30-60 mile rides. Would I feel a difference in "stiffness"? To the OP: Go with the 5.9, otherwise you'll end up trying to make your 4.5 a 5.9 (like I did, I tried to make my 4.7 a 5.5), and you'll always wish that you'd gone for the higher series frame.  

My old bike is a 12 year old Eddy Mercks & I can definitely tell the difference. The Madone's bottom end is a good bit stiffer and can really be felt out of the saddle when climbing. Also it is a lot lighter over a standard BB, which is a moot point for me at 245 lbs.  

I'd expect that, but can someone like me feel the difference between a 2011 external bearing & a 2012 BB90?  

I don't see how you can't. It is a completely different bike design.  

I own a 2011 4.5, and during thanksgiving the lbs let me test ride a 2012 6 series project one. Too make a long story short, I'm selling the 4.5 and getting that bike. The diffrence is HUGE between those bikes, I cannot wait to get that thing.  

I'm afraid to try a 2012 5 or 6. I did what you did. I took a 4-series frame, and changed over components and wheels. I like the thing, but it's still a 4-series. If I get on a 2012 5 or 6, I know that I'll buy one.  

I have a 2012 Madone 6.2. I was replacing my 2007 Madone 5.2 after I was rear ended in a car accident by an 18yr old. My 5.2 was on a hitch mounted bike carrier. Driver's ins paid for most of the replacement. Before settling on the 6.2 I test rode 2 Bianchis, a Cervelo (nice) and a Felt. I'll never forget what I felt the first second, literally, when I got on the 6.2. From the first second getting on the bike I knew it was the bike I wanted. note - My lbs told me that the 6.2 frame is the same as the 6 series project one. The difference is the greater customization options and price with the project one. I suggest the 6 series but to save a few dollars get the 6.x vs the project one. The frames are the same.  

Well it is good to know if you spend more money you get a better product. I would hope so. Calling the 4.5 a pos is a little strong. I am happy with mine so I will make sure not to ride a 6 series before I am ready to buy one  

Got a 2011 4.5 as well and love it. It's been a great summer with it and the bike has been to hell and back and still rides really nice. Not looking to upgrade any time soon, no matter how "good" these new bikes supposedly are.  

Thank you for all of your comments folks. It is coming down to D-Day here (next week) and I am still struggling a little with what to do. I have tried to find as much info as I can on the difference between the 2012 4 series and 5 series Madone frames, but it is tough to find much out there (Like how much does a 2012 frame weigh? The 4 series is being reported as 1100 grams for 2012). Right now, I am leaning toward the 5.9 frame, but it will suck not to be able to ride it (though I still have my Felt F85) until it is built up. But if I'm just going to have to find a way to sale the 105 components and cheap wheels that come on the 4.5 anyway, I might as well go with the 5.9 (I'm just not in the mood for that headache and my wife is not going to be too excited about having more bike parts laying around until I can unload them). I also considered just going with a complete 5.2, but I am committed to riding with SRAM rather than Ultegra. Thanks again.  

The 5.9 looks sweet. One idea is to get the 6 project one and customize it. They have it for $300 off and you can downgrade components to get the price way down. I just got the 6.2 with the $300 off and the LBS was having a 2 day sale so I saved even more. I wanted the 5.2 because I love the black but for a few hundred more got the Made in the USA model. I would have got a 4.7 but I needed the H3 fit and it only comes on 5 and 6 series. No one thinks I should have got such a nice bike except me. Same for when I got the used S-works mountain bike a few years ago. If one will make you happier then that is the one IMO.  

ClayFranklin said: No one thinks I should have got such a nice bike except me. If one will make you happier then that is the one IMO. Click to expand...

Well, after much delibertion, I went with the 2012 Madone 5.9 frameset. I'm still not convinced that there is a ton of ride quality between the 5 series and the 4 series in 2012, but since I would replace the wheels and components (from Shimano to SRAM) on the 4.5 anyway, I would end up paying about the same for the two frames and decided I might as well go with the higher quality then. I am looking forward to completing the bike, it's out of stock and should be here sometime in Januaury. Thank you again for all of the advice!!  

Good for you and I hope you enjoy it.  

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The Top 12 Things to Do in Nizhny Novgorod, Russia

Take a first-rate trip to Russia's fifth city

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Although it's Russia's fifth-largest city, you could be forgiven for never having heard of Nizhny Novgorod. Notwithstanding that another Russian city is simply called " Novgorod ," the current name of the city just doesn't have a memorable ring to it. (By contrast, its name during the Soviet years — Gorky, like the famous author — was much more iconic.) At any rate, this city of just over a million around six hours east of Moscow is more than worth a visit. These are just 12 reasons why!

Tour the Kremlin's 13 Towers

Like most every other city in Russia, Nizhny Novgorod is home to a Kremlin. (The word "kremlin" means "citadel" in Russian, and has nothing to do with the modern Russian government) One thing that elevated the Kremlin of Nizhny Novgorod above others in Russia (with the possible exception of the Moscow Kremlin and one or two others), however, is the fact that its wall has 13 towers. During the summer months, at least one free walking tour per day operates from the main entrance of Nizhny Novgorod's Kremlin.

Climb Russia's Longest Staircase

Named for one of the most famous Russian pilots of the early aviation age (Valery Chkalov), the Chkalov Stairs connect two of Nizhny Novgorod's public squares, which sit on the upper and lower embankments of the Volga River, respectively. Built in 1943 (during the period when Nizhny Novgorod was known as Gorky), the Chkalov Stairs currently have the distinction of being the longest staircase in Russia.

Go Wild at Limpopo Zoo

One thing that surprises many travelers to Nizhny Novgorod is how amazing its zoo, colloquially known as Limpopo is. In addition to being home to a tropical botanical garden (which, not surprisingly, is indoors), the zoo hosts a variety of reptiles, mammals and birds. There's also a small sculpture park on the grounds of Nizhny Novgorod's zoo, including both original and replica pieces.

Shop (or Just Stroll) Along a Storied High Street

Bolshaya Pokrovskaya Street has been the de-facto "Main Street" of Nizhny Novgorod for more than 200 years. Well, minus the Soviet Union period, during which the cafes that once (and now) lined it became somewhat worthless, since intellectual conversations were basically forbidden. These days, you can come here for a cup of Russian tea then shop at the dozens of boutiques you'll find on either side of the street.

Sun Yourself at the Spit

Nizhny Novgorod sits at the confluence of the Oka and Volga Rivers, with the triangle of land at the point they meet being known as the Nizhny Novgorod Spit. Ignoring the unfortunate double-meaning of its name for a moment, this is actually a wonderful place to get a tan, if it's summer in the city and the sun happens to be shining. Even if not, photographers will enjoy a trip here for a view of the Kremlin and city center across the Volga.

Marvel at the Open-Air Museum of Rozhdestvenskaya Street

Like Bolshaya Pokrovskaya Street, Rozhdestvenskaya Street has long been one of the most important streets in Nizhny Novgorod. However, while the former has become a primarily commercial artery in recent decades, the charm of the latter is in its well-maintained buildings, which hearken back to the mid-18th century. In fact, some locals go so far as to consider Rozhdestvenskaya Street an "open-air museum."

Ride Russia's Newest Cable Car

Russian investment in infrastructure isn't quite as dramatic as that of, say, China, but the Federation has nonetheless built a selection of interesting and modern transportation systems since the fall of the USSR. Among them is the just-opened cable car, which travels from the center of Nizhny Novgorod over the Volga River to suburban Bor. At any rate, a ride over the river and back is definitely worth inclusion on your list of things to do in Nizhny Novgorod.

Taste Traditional Shchi Soup

Shchi is one of Nizhy Novgorod's most delicious local specialties, available in most every local restaurant that serves Russian food. From above, a bowl of shchi seems incredibly complicated, with a colorful palette that suggests the inclusion of dozens of diverse ingredients. In fact, the magic of shchi is in its simplicity. Building on the traditional pan-Russian recipe of cabbage, pork fat and salt (yes, just three ingredients), locals in Nizhny Novgorod sometimes add minced meat or egg whites as bonus items, then top the tangy soup with a dollop of sour cream.

Survey Amazing Russian Orthodox Architecture

Think the only amazing Russian Orthodox churches are in Moscow and St. Petersburg? Think again. Nizhny Novgorod boasts several amazing examples of Russian Orthodox architecture. From the brilliant golde domes John the Baptist Cathedral near the Volga River, to the expansive grounds of 14th-century Pechersky Ascension Monastery, Nizhny Novgorod is an architecture buff's dream!

Take a Look Back in Time

Nizhny Novgorod's historical center is relatively large and well-preserved, but a stroll (or 10) through it isn't the only way to get a feel for the city's centuries-long past. Head to the Russian Museum of Photography, which not only showcases a variety of images of Nizhny Novgorod that date back a century or even longer, but also spotlights the equipment Russian photographers have used throughout the years, and notable figures in Russia's photography history as well.

Visit the Convent from the Movie "Salt"

You'd be forgiven if you've entirely forgotten the 2010 film "Salt." However, if you remember any destination from this spy thriller, it's likely the facade of Makaryev Convent, which is located within day-trip distance of Nizhny Novgorod. Having served as a monastery from its consecration in the early 15th century up until the beginning of the Russian Revolution, Makaryev became a convent after the fall of the Soviet Union , and is now home to 22 nuns.

Take an Excursion to a 12th-Century Tea Town

Another worthwhile day trip from Nizhny Novgorod is to the town of Gorodets, which sits about an hour to its northwest. With a history dating back to the 12th century, Gorodets boasts an interesting array of architecture and museums, including one dedicated to samovars. 

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